cats health teeth
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I have heard of it. Three months ago we started our yearly round of vaccinations on our cats. I generally take the cats in two at a time. Two weeks after the youngest was vaccinated, I noticed a large bump on his back near the vaccination site. After having read on the newsgroups about the cancer associated with this I was very worried and took my cat back to the vet. As the bump was not causing him any pain at all and he was still eating normally (he’s a downright pig, often trying to steal out of the other cat’s bowls) it was determined that it probably was not cancer, but a side effect of the vaccinations. This is why they are no longer doing combo shots. The vet said this very side effect is making the whole vet industry reconsider the number of vaccinations they give at one time. After about four to eight weeks the bump was gone. That’s not to say the cancer was not a possibility, but we were lucky. Next time I’m asking my vet about the three year rabies shot. — ** Diane with Kenda, Thai Foon, Two Tone & Jackie Chan ** – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have not heard about the immunization problem with tumors, I do know >however that cats teeth do need cleaning.
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Thanks, Michelle. That means a lot to me, coming from an LVT! Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Becky, >Just wanted to post that this is by far the most well thought out, >concise, and informative response I’ve seen in a long while. Keep up >the good work! >Michelle R. Lewis, LVT >It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your >cats for teeth cleaning. >Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, >such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one >that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly >because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by >the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. >If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush >our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire >life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, >and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I >don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they >get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large >part of the treatment in feline health.) >Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a >preventive measure. >Becky
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was > informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail > due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was > also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them > to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very > skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about > having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? > — > Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com > Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
====== Hi Charley.. By coincidence, February is National Feline Dental Health Month, and I have an almost 8yo female Birman that I will be taking to have her teeth cleaned. Older cats come to need it. She has had some gum inflamation from tartar irritation, so the time is at hand to have it taken care of. Of course, she will have to be anesthetized, but they use the safest inhalent anesthesia now, and administer a pre-treatment shot to relax the cat. I am naturally concerned, but if it is not done, she faces developing more serious problems in the future. Call your vet and discuss your concerns. S/he will be glad to explain the process and put your mind at ease. — Cheers, BobH "Chicken Little only has to be right once."
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was > informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail > due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was > also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them > to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very > skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about > having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
Here’s food for thought. My vet, who does some work with managed feral cat colonies (feral cats that have been neutered/spayed, vaccinated and regularly fed in their home territories) says that these cats can live to about 10 years of age, whereupon they often succumb to problems associated with poor dental health. So, if you want your cats to live longer than 10 years, have their teeth cleaned regularly. As for the anesthesia issue-it is sometimes possible for vets to clean cats’ teeth without it. This depends upon the severity of the tartar on the teeth, the cat’s disposition, and the personal preferences of the vet and vet techs. My cats do not need to be anesthetized for their teeth-cleaning, but they are young, have their teeth cleaned regularly, so the tartar isn’t too bad, and they turn into jello at the sight of a man or woman in a white coat. So ask about this-it minimizes the risk of the procedure (although anesthesia is so good these days that the risk is minimal) and costs less money. Perhaps you will only need to have them anesthetized for the first cleaning, if you are vigilant about keeping up with their dental health thereafter. Marca
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I highly recommend you get your cat’s teeth cleaned. My little girl had this very same condition, and it wasn’t found until her teeth were cleaned shortly after I adopted her. She had terrible plaque and the bacteria were wreaking havoc on her system. The levels of toxins in her blood was so high that her liver and kidneys were close to simply shutting down. This condition can be reversed if the cat’s teeth are kept clean, and in my case I was also instructed to put my cat on a low-protein diet (by Waltham). After 3 months we went in for a checkup, and even though she wasn’t completely recovered, she was markedly improved. My vet told me that there’s actually toothpaste and toothbrushes for cats now! He said that at first he just let the cats sniff and lick the paste, and now the cats won’t let him go to bed until he’s brushed their teeth! :) I don’t know how well this will go over with other cats, but it may be worth a try. Good luck with your cat! :) -Val – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
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Becky, Just wanted to post that this is by far the most well thought out, concise, and informative response I’ve seen in a long while. Keep up the good work! Michelle R. Lewis, LVT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your >cats for teeth cleaning. >Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, >such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one >that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly >because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by >the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. >If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush >our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire >life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, >and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I >don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they >get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large >part of the treatment in feline health.) >Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a >preventive measure. >Becky
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Somebody mentioned doing teeth-cleaning without full anesthesia. I’d like to know more too.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
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> Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
cats have been getting dental treatment for some time. there have been improvements in the anaesthesia, but there is always some risk. after you get the cat’s teeth cleaned professionally, you might want to consider adding toothbrushing to the things you do for your cat. this won’t obviate the need to get professional help in the future, but it may well postpone the time. and you’ll be in there looking for the earliest signs of what can become some very nasty trouble. it’s easy! it’s fun! well, ok, it’s really neither, but it can be done and the results speak for themselves. you oughta look at my cat’s teeth! — rob
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My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
Charley99 , I have not heard about the immunization problem with tumors, I do know however that cats teeth do need cleaning. And yes they need to be put under for this to happen. Any time a person or animal is anesthtized there can be problems but if your cat is young and in good health there should be no problems. I would hope the vet doing this is someone you trust and has had experiance with this before. If you still have concerns, just as with humans do get another opinion. DragonClaw
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
Hi, It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your cats for teeth cleaning. Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large part of the treatment in feline health.) Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a preventive measure. Becky
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I have heard of it. Three months ago we started our yearly round of vaccinations on our cats. I generally take the cats in two at a time. Two weeks after the youngest was vaccinated, I noticed a large bump on his back near the vaccination site. After having read on the newsgroups about the cancer associated with this I was very worried and took my cat back to the vet. As the bump was not causing him any pain at all and he was still eating normally (he’s a downright pig, often trying to steal out of the other cat’s bowls) it was determined that it probably was not cancer, but a side effect of the vaccinations. This is why they are no longer doing combo shots. The vet said this very side effect is making the whole vet industry reconsider the number of vaccinations they give at one time. After about four to eight weeks the bump was gone. That’s not to say the cancer was not a possibility, but we were lucky. Next time I’m asking my vet about the three year rabies shot. — ** Diane with Kenda, Thai Foon, Two Tone & Jackie Chan ** – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have not heard about the immunization problem with tumors, I do know >however that cats teeth do need cleaning.
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Thanks, Michelle. That means a lot to me, coming from an LVT! Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Becky, >Just wanted to post that this is by far the most well thought out, >concise, and informative response I’ve seen in a long while. Keep up >the good work! >Michelle R. Lewis, LVT >It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your >cats for teeth cleaning. >Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, >such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one >that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly >because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by >the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. >If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush >our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire >life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, >and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I >don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they >get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large >part of the treatment in feline health.) >Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a >preventive measure. >Becky
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was > informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail > due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was > also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them > to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very > skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about > having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? > — > Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com > Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
====== Hi Charley.. By coincidence, February is National Feline Dental Health Month, and I have an almost 8yo female Birman that I will be taking to have her teeth cleaned. Older cats come to need it. She has had some gum inflamation from tartar irritation, so the time is at hand to have it taken care of. Of course, she will have to be anesthetized, but they use the safest inhalent anesthesia now, and administer a pre-treatment shot to relax the cat. I am naturally concerned, but if it is not done, she faces developing more serious problems in the future. Call your vet and discuss your concerns. S/he will be glad to explain the process and put your mind at ease. — Cheers, BobH "Chicken Little only has to be right once."
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was > informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail > due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was > also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them > to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very > skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about > having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
Here’s food for thought. My vet, who does some work with managed feral cat colonies (feral cats that have been neutered/spayed, vaccinated and regularly fed in their home territories) says that these cats can live to about 10 years of age, whereupon they often succumb to problems associated with poor dental health. So, if you want your cats to live longer than 10 years, have their teeth cleaned regularly. As for the anesthesia issue-it is sometimes possible for vets to clean cats’ teeth without it. This depends upon the severity of the tartar on the teeth, the cat’s disposition, and the personal preferences of the vet and vet techs. My cats do not need to be anesthetized for their teeth-cleaning, but they are young, have their teeth cleaned regularly, so the tartar isn’t too bad, and they turn into jello at the sight of a man or woman in a white coat. So ask about this-it minimizes the risk of the procedure (although anesthesia is so good these days that the risk is minimal) and costs less money. Perhaps you will only need to have them anesthetized for the first cleaning, if you are vigilant about keeping up with their dental health thereafter. Marca
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I highly recommend you get your cat’s teeth cleaned. My little girl had this very same condition, and it wasn’t found until her teeth were cleaned shortly after I adopted her. She had terrible plaque and the bacteria were wreaking havoc on her system. The levels of toxins in her blood was so high that her liver and kidneys were close to simply shutting down. This condition can be reversed if the cat’s teeth are kept clean, and in my case I was also instructed to put my cat on a low-protein diet (by Waltham). After 3 months we went in for a checkup, and even though she wasn’t completely recovered, she was markedly improved. My vet told me that there’s actually toothpaste and toothbrushes for cats now! He said that at first he just let the cats sniff and lick the paste, and now the cats won’t let him go to bed until he’s brushed their teeth! :) I don’t know how well this will go over with other cats, but it may be worth a try. Good luck with your cat! :) -Val – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
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Becky, Just wanted to post that this is by far the most well thought out, concise, and informative response I’ve seen in a long while. Keep up the good work! Michelle R. Lewis, LVT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your >cats for teeth cleaning. >Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, >such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one >that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly >because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by >the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. >If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush >our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire >life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, >and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I >don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they >get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large >part of the treatment in feline health.) >Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a >preventive measure. >Becky
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Somebody mentioned doing teeth-cleaning without full anesthesia. I’d like to know more too.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
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> Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
cats have been getting dental treatment for some time. there have been improvements in the anaesthesia, but there is always some risk. after you get the cat’s teeth cleaned professionally, you might want to consider adding toothbrushing to the things you do for your cat. this won’t obviate the need to get professional help in the future, but it may well postpone the time. and you’ll be in there looking for the earliest signs of what can become some very nasty trouble. it’s easy! it’s fun! well, ok, it’s really neither, but it can be done and the results speak for themselves. you oughta look at my cat’s teeth! — rob
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My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
Charley99 , I have not heard about the immunization problem with tumors, I do know however that cats teeth do need cleaning. And yes they need to be put under for this to happen. Any time a person or animal is anesthtized there can be problems but if your cat is young and in good health there should be no problems. I would hope the vet doing this is someone you trust and has had experiance with this before. If you still have concerns, just as with humans do get another opinion. DragonClaw
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
Hi, It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your cats for teeth cleaning. Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large part of the treatment in feline health.) Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a preventive measure. Becky
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I have heard of it. Three months ago we started our yearly round of vaccinations on our cats. I generally take the cats in two at a time. Two weeks after the youngest was vaccinated, I noticed a large bump on his back near the vaccination site. After having read on the newsgroups about the cancer associated with this I was very worried and took my cat back to the vet. As the bump was not causing him any pain at all and he was still eating normally (he’s a downright pig, often trying to steal out of the other cat’s bowls) it was determined that it probably was not cancer, but a side effect of the vaccinations. This is why they are no longer doing combo shots. The vet said this very side effect is making the whole vet industry reconsider the number of vaccinations they give at one time. After about four to eight weeks the bump was gone. That’s not to say the cancer was not a possibility, but we were lucky. Next time I’m asking my vet about the three year rabies shot. — ** Diane with Kenda, Thai Foon, Two Tone & Jackie Chan ** – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have not heard about the immunization problem with tumors, I do know >however that cats teeth do need cleaning.
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Thanks, Michelle. That means a lot to me, coming from an LVT! Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Becky, >Just wanted to post that this is by far the most well thought out, >concise, and informative response I’ve seen in a long while. Keep up >the good work! >Michelle R. Lewis, LVT >It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your >cats for teeth cleaning. >Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, >such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one >that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly >because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by >the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. >If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush >our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire >life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, >and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I >don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they >get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large >part of the treatment in feline health.) >Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a >preventive measure. >Becky
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was > informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail > due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was > also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them > to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very > skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about > having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? > — > Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com > Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
====== Hi Charley.. By coincidence, February is National Feline Dental Health Month, and I have an almost 8yo female Birman that I will be taking to have her teeth cleaned. Older cats come to need it. She has had some gum inflamation from tartar irritation, so the time is at hand to have it taken care of. Of course, she will have to be anesthetized, but they use the safest inhalent anesthesia now, and administer a pre-treatment shot to relax the cat. I am naturally concerned, but if it is not done, she faces developing more serious problems in the future. Call your vet and discuss your concerns. S/he will be glad to explain the process and put your mind at ease. — Cheers, BobH "Chicken Little only has to be right once."
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was > informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail > due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was > also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them > to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very > skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about > having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
Here’s food for thought. My vet, who does some work with managed feral cat colonies (feral cats that have been neutered/spayed, vaccinated and regularly fed in their home territories) says that these cats can live to about 10 years of age, whereupon they often succumb to problems associated with poor dental health. So, if you want your cats to live longer than 10 years, have their teeth cleaned regularly. As for the anesthesia issue-it is sometimes possible for vets to clean cats’ teeth without it. This depends upon the severity of the tartar on the teeth, the cat’s disposition, and the personal preferences of the vet and vet techs. My cats do not need to be anesthetized for their teeth-cleaning, but they are young, have their teeth cleaned regularly, so the tartar isn’t too bad, and they turn into jello at the sight of a man or woman in a white coat. So ask about this-it minimizes the risk of the procedure (although anesthesia is so good these days that the risk is minimal) and costs less money. Perhaps you will only need to have them anesthetized for the first cleaning, if you are vigilant about keeping up with their dental health thereafter. Marca
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I highly recommend you get your cat’s teeth cleaned. My little girl had this very same condition, and it wasn’t found until her teeth were cleaned shortly after I adopted her. She had terrible plaque and the bacteria were wreaking havoc on her system. The levels of toxins in her blood was so high that her liver and kidneys were close to simply shutting down. This condition can be reversed if the cat’s teeth are kept clean, and in my case I was also instructed to put my cat on a low-protein diet (by Waltham). After 3 months we went in for a checkup, and even though she wasn’t completely recovered, she was markedly improved. My vet told me that there’s actually toothpaste and toothbrushes for cats now! He said that at first he just let the cats sniff and lick the paste, and now the cats won’t let him go to bed until he’s brushed their teeth! :) I don’t know how well this will go over with other cats, but it may be worth a try. Good luck with your cat! :) -Val – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
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Becky, Just wanted to post that this is by far the most well thought out, concise, and informative response I’ve seen in a long while. Keep up the good work! Michelle R. Lewis, LVT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly >and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking >just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to >problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the >mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing >serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your >cats for teeth cleaning. >Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, >such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one >that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly >because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by >the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. >If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush >our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire >life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, >and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I >don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they >get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large >part of the treatment in feline health.) >Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a >preventive measure. >Becky
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Somebody mentioned doing teeth-cleaning without full anesthesia. I’d like to know more too.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
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> Should I get a second opinion or > has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved?
cats have been getting dental treatment for some time. there have been improvements in the anaesthesia, but there is always some risk. after you get the cat’s teeth cleaned professionally, you might want to consider adding toothbrushing to the things you do for your cat. this won’t obviate the need to get professional help in the future, but it may well postpone the time. and you’ll be in there looking for the earliest signs of what can become some very nasty trouble. it’s easy! it’s fun! well, ok, it’s really neither, but it can be done and the results speak for themselves. you oughta look at my cat’s teeth! — rob
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My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
Charley99 , I have not heard about the immunization problem with tumors, I do know however that cats teeth do need cleaning. And yes they need to be put under for this to happen. Any time a person or animal is anesthtized there can be problems but if your cat is young and in good health there should be no problems. I would hope the vet doing this is someone you trust and has had experiance with this before. If you still have concerns, just as with humans do get another opinion. DragonClaw
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> My cats went into the vet for routine immunization boosters. I was >informed that they would no longer get all the shots in one cocktail >due to problems resulting in tumors for an unexplained reason. I was >also told that thier teeth needed cleaning and that would require them >to be anesthtized . I made the appointment for next month but I’m very >skeptical of the need to clean thier teeth and even more worried about >having them put under for any reason. Should I get a second opinion or >has cat health taken a new twist and oral care for cats simply improved? >– >Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com >Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email — always at Talkway.
Hi, It’s *extremely* important that your cats have their teeth cleaned regularly and professionally. If not, they could develop problems, and I’m not talking just about tooth abscesses, tooth loss and gingivitis. I’m referring to problems in organs, such as the liver, kidneys and heart. Bacteria from the mouth can seep into the bloodstream and travel to these organs, causing serious damage. Your vet can tell you how often you need to bring in your cats for teeth cleaning. Regarding anesthesia: ask your vet what kind he/she uses. If it’s a gas, such as isofluorane (sp?), that is one of the safest around (it’s the same one that’s used on human infants). Gas anesthetics are safe than injected, partly because they don’t have to be cleared by the liver or kidneys, but rather by the lungs. Recovery time is also much quicker with gas. If you think about it, cats eat every day, just like we humans do. We brush our teeth every day, two or more times. Think of a cat living its entire life without one teeth cleaning. Yuck! Bacteria survives on food remnants, and you know our kitties are walking around with those in their teeth. (I don’t know how susceptible cats are to developing cavities, but I do know they get gingivitis and abscesses, and dental problems account for a very large part of the treatment in feline health.) Good luck — if I were you, I’d definitely have your cats’ teeth cleaned, as a preventive measure. Becky
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