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If your vet can find no evidence of infection, crystals, or other problems, perhaps s/he can see if interstitial cystitis may be troubling your cat.  For more info, see http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/boeing/small_animal_medicine/fus.htm#Chronic interstitial cystitis:       (yes that URL ended with a colon) or http://www.newmanveterinary.com/flutd.htm If he’s not eating, please get him to a vet ASAP . . . HTH, –Jody Feline HCM — http://members.aol.com/jchinitz/hcm/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has > been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and > something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and > we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he > seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently > went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very > happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his > dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the > cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his > food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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Sorry, I don’t have any advise what you could do. I have a cat with recurring urinary tract infections. I put chicken broth on her dry food to get more liquid into her which seems to be important. Could you  let me know what cranberry comfort is and where one could find it? Thank you          Maria

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cranberry comfort was given to us by our vet, apparently it helps to boost the immune system.  Its a powder we’re supposed to mix in with his food and the amount he gave us will last for quite awhile, his instructions were to continue using it until it was done

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>My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has >been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and >something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and >we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he >seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently >went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very >happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to >urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his >dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the >cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his >food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, Relapses are not uncommon with this type of problem.  Have you taken the cat back to your vet for a follow-up urinalysis?  That’s the first thing to do, if you haven’t already. How long has he gone without food?  This can become a life-threatening situation, if it goes on for more than a couple of days, because your cat could develop fatty liver disease (hepatic lipidosis). You might ask your vet if he/she is positive that the correct antibiotic was prescribed.  Did the vet culture the urine sample?  Actual bacterial infections of the urinary tract are very rare, accounting for less than 5% of all urinary tract problems.  Antibiotics won’t do any good if there’s no infection present (unless the infection is a secondary one, caused by the crystals cutting and scraping the bladder and urethra).  The fact that a cat gets better while on antibiotics is usually a coincididence; most UT problems are self-limiting, and the cat would get better on his own, anyway. It’s possible that your being out of town threw your cat’s schedule off just enough to bring back this problem.  Perhaps he slept more while you were gone, thus retaining his urine for longer periods of time and giving the problem a chance to reappear. Good luck to your kitty. Becky

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Could you try another vet? Just for the sake of a second opinion of this recurring UTI? Here is a vet site online that may offer some good reading in the meantime: http://www.vetinfo.com/caturinary.html Goodluck! elsa ^..^ "a kitten is infinitely more amusing than half the people one is obliged to live with in the world"  - Lady Morgan http://arnhem.telekabel.nl/~c35065/louie.htm http://arnhem.telekabel.nl/~c35065/cattitude.htm

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>  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to >eat both his > dry food and his wet food,

Jon, I say this with great difficulty: If cystitis has been ruled out, then these are all classic signs of  cancer.  I suggest you seek an Oncologist for specific tests to rule out this possibility.  I sincerely hope it is not, but if it is cancer, caught early enough, some types are treatable and operable, especially at your cat’s age. In your post you did not mention a blood panel for organ function and blood chemistry.  The results of this test would be invaluable. If your vet did not perform this test, a second opinion is certainly in order. Best wishes, Phil. — "Cats have no masters…just friends"  Good cat health stuff: http://maxshouse.com

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He needs to go back to the vet and get re-checked immediately.  If your vet is stumped, then take him to another vet for a second opinion.  Don’t wait, if he’s straining to urinate and refusing to eat, he needs attention now. Does the Cranberry Comfort *have* to be given with food?  I can think of two ways to give it to him.  If it can be given without food, dissolve some of the powder in tepid or warm water and use an oral syringe (you can get one from your vet or possibly from a pharmacy) to administer.  To use the syringe, you open his mouth, insert the business end of the syringe into the *side* of his mouth, and squeeze the fluid in a little bit at a time until he’s swallowed it all.  If the powder needs to be given *with* food, do the same thing, just dilute the food with water or broth till it’s a soupy consistency, add the powder, and use the oral syringe.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has > been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and > something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and > we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he > seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently > went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very > happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his > dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the > cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his > food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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If your vet can find no evidence of infection, crystals, or other problems, perhaps s/he can see if interstitial cystitis may be troubling your cat.  For more info, see http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/boeing/small_animal_medicine/fus.htm#Chronic interstitial cystitis:       (yes that URL ended with a colon) or http://www.newmanveterinary.com/flutd.htm If he’s not eating, please get him to a vet ASAP . . . HTH, –Jody Feline HCM — http://members.aol.com/jchinitz/hcm/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has > been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and > something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and > we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he > seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently > went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very > happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his > dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the > cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his > food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Response:

Sorry, I don’t have any advise what you could do. I have a cat with recurring urinary tract infections. I put chicken broth on her dry food to get more liquid into her which seems to be important. Could you  let me know what cranberry comfort is and where one could find it? Thank you          Maria

Response:

cranberry comfort was given to us by our vet, apparently it helps to boost the immune system.  Its a powder we’re supposed to mix in with his food and the amount he gave us will last for quite awhile, his instructions were to continue using it until it was done

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>My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has >been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and >something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and >we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he >seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently >went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very >happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to >urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his >dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the >cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his >food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, Relapses are not uncommon with this type of problem.  Have you taken the cat back to your vet for a follow-up urinalysis?  That’s the first thing to do, if you haven’t already. How long has he gone without food?  This can become a life-threatening situation, if it goes on for more than a couple of days, because your cat could develop fatty liver disease (hepatic lipidosis). You might ask your vet if he/she is positive that the correct antibiotic was prescribed.  Did the vet culture the urine sample?  Actual bacterial infections of the urinary tract are very rare, accounting for less than 5% of all urinary tract problems.  Antibiotics won’t do any good if there’s no infection present (unless the infection is a secondary one, caused by the crystals cutting and scraping the bladder and urethra).  The fact that a cat gets better while on antibiotics is usually a coincididence; most UT problems are self-limiting, and the cat would get better on his own, anyway. It’s possible that your being out of town threw your cat’s schedule off just enough to bring back this problem.  Perhaps he slept more while you were gone, thus retaining his urine for longer periods of time and giving the problem a chance to reappear. Good luck to your kitty. Becky

Response:

Could you try another vet? Just for the sake of a second opinion of this recurring UTI? Here is a vet site online that may offer some good reading in the meantime: http://www.vetinfo.com/caturinary.html Goodluck! elsa ^..^ "a kitten is infinitely more amusing than half the people one is obliged to live with in the world"  - Lady Morgan http://arnhem.telekabel.nl/~c35065/louie.htm http://arnhem.telekabel.nl/~c35065/cattitude.htm

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>  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to >eat both his > dry food and his wet food,

Jon, I say this with great difficulty: If cystitis has been ruled out, then these are all classic signs of  cancer.  I suggest you seek an Oncologist for specific tests to rule out this possibility.  I sincerely hope it is not, but if it is cancer, caught early enough, some types are treatable and operable, especially at your cat’s age. In your post you did not mention a blood panel for organ function and blood chemistry.  The results of this test would be invaluable. If your vet did not perform this test, a second opinion is certainly in order. Best wishes, Phil. — "Cats have no masters…just friends"  Good cat health stuff: http://maxshouse.com

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He needs to go back to the vet and get re-checked immediately.  If your vet is stumped, then take him to another vet for a second opinion.  Don’t wait, if he’s straining to urinate and refusing to eat, he needs attention now. Does the Cranberry Comfort *have* to be given with food?  I can think of two ways to give it to him.  If it can be given without food, dissolve some of the powder in tepid or warm water and use an oral syringe (you can get one from your vet or possibly from a pharmacy) to administer.  To use the syringe, you open his mouth, insert the business end of the syringe into the *side* of his mouth, and squeeze the fluid in a little bit at a time until he’s swallowed it all.  If the powder needs to be given *with* food, do the same thing, just dilute the food with water or broth till it’s a soupy consistency, add the powder, and use the oral syringe.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has > been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and > something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and > we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he > seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently > went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very > happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his > dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the > cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his > food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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If your vet can find no evidence of infection, crystals, or other problems, perhaps s/he can see if interstitial cystitis may be troubling your cat.  For more info, see http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/boeing/small_animal_medicine/fus.htm#Chronic interstitial cystitis:       (yes that URL ended with a colon) or http://www.newmanveterinary.com/flutd.htm If he’s not eating, please get him to a vet ASAP . . . HTH, –Jody Feline HCM — http://members.aol.com/jchinitz/hcm/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has > been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and > something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and > we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he > seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently > went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very > happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his > dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the > cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his > food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Response:

Sorry, I don’t have any advise what you could do. I have a cat with recurring urinary tract infections. I put chicken broth on her dry food to get more liquid into her which seems to be important. Could you  let me know what cranberry comfort is and where one could find it? Thank you          Maria

Response:

cranberry comfort was given to us by our vet, apparently it helps to boost the immune system.  Its a powder we’re supposed to mix in with his food and the amount he gave us will last for quite awhile, his instructions were to continue using it until it was done

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>My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has >been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and >something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and >we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he >seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently >went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very >happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to >urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his >dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the >cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his >food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, Relapses are not uncommon with this type of problem.  Have you taken the cat back to your vet for a follow-up urinalysis?  That’s the first thing to do, if you haven’t already. How long has he gone without food?  This can become a life-threatening situation, if it goes on for more than a couple of days, because your cat could develop fatty liver disease (hepatic lipidosis). You might ask your vet if he/she is positive that the correct antibiotic was prescribed.  Did the vet culture the urine sample?  Actual bacterial infections of the urinary tract are very rare, accounting for less than 5% of all urinary tract problems.  Antibiotics won’t do any good if there’s no infection present (unless the infection is a secondary one, caused by the crystals cutting and scraping the bladder and urethra).  The fact that a cat gets better while on antibiotics is usually a coincididence; most UT problems are self-limiting, and the cat would get better on his own, anyway. It’s possible that your being out of town threw your cat’s schedule off just enough to bring back this problem.  Perhaps he slept more while you were gone, thus retaining his urine for longer periods of time and giving the problem a chance to reappear. Good luck to your kitty. Becky

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Could you try another vet? Just for the sake of a second opinion of this recurring UTI? Here is a vet site online that may offer some good reading in the meantime: http://www.vetinfo.com/caturinary.html Goodluck! elsa ^..^ "a kitten is infinitely more amusing than half the people one is obliged to live with in the world"  - Lady Morgan http://arnhem.telekabel.nl/~c35065/louie.htm http://arnhem.telekabel.nl/~c35065/cattitude.htm

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>  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to >eat both his > dry food and his wet food,

Jon, I say this with great difficulty: If cystitis has been ruled out, then these are all classic signs of  cancer.  I suggest you seek an Oncologist for specific tests to rule out this possibility.  I sincerely hope it is not, but if it is cancer, caught early enough, some types are treatable and operable, especially at your cat’s age. In your post you did not mention a blood panel for organ function and blood chemistry.  The results of this test would be invaluable. If your vet did not perform this test, a second opinion is certainly in order. Best wishes, Phil. — "Cats have no masters…just friends"  Good cat health stuff: http://maxshouse.com

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He needs to go back to the vet and get re-checked immediately.  If your vet is stumped, then take him to another vet for a second opinion.  Don’t wait, if he’s straining to urinate and refusing to eat, he needs attention now. Does the Cranberry Comfort *have* to be given with food?  I can think of two ways to give it to him.  If it can be given without food, dissolve some of the powder in tepid or warm water and use an oral syringe (you can get one from your vet or possibly from a pharmacy) to administer.  To use the syringe, you open his mouth, insert the business end of the syringe into the *side* of his mouth, and squeeze the fluid in a little bit at a time until he’s swallowed it all.  If the powder needs to be given *with* food, do the same thing, just dilute the food with water or broth till it’s a soupy consistency, add the powder, and use the oral syringe.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My 2 year old cat recently had a urinary tract infection, urinalysis has > been done and there are no crystals.  The vet put him on antibiotics and > something called Cranberry Comfort.  The problem seemed like it was over and > we followed the instructions to keep giving him the medicine even after he > seemed better. We are still giving him the cranberry comfort but we recently > went out of town for 3 days. When we came back he was doing great, very > happy to see us a very playful.  The next day though he started straining to > urinate and is urinating all over the house. He also refuses to eat both his > dry food and his wet food, which means we aren’t able to give him the > cranberry comfort since its a powder that is supposed to be mixed in his > food.  Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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