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Help, Feral cats!

Question:

Perihelion, can you please fix your computer so that it stops tagging your messages with the wrong date? Julie Carter — ICQ 1265510

Response:

Thanks for taking the time to read my plea.  Ultimately I just want the cats to be happy and I know they hate being locked up and they hate it when we try to clean their kennels.  I feel that spay/neuter and release is the best options for these cats – it’s just a matter of finding a place for them.  They were most likely trapped over a year ago.  I got word today that a couple of shelters in the area have taken a few of the cats including the ferals.  So, it’s out of my hands now, and I just hope things work out.  I know the cats won’t be put down.  I just don’t want them spending the rest of their lives in kennels.   Perihelion – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Depends on what you want to do with them. > You are right, older ferals are almost impossible to have as pets.  The older they > get, the chance of them ever fully trusting you goes down.  I personally have never > been able to get a true feral older then 1.5 years to be tame enough for someone to > adopt them. > If you re-release them into a feral colony, then chances are they are just going to > reproduce unless you get them spayed/neutered first.    Their best bet for survival > is to get them spayed/neutered and release them to where you caught them.  Although > neutered, feral males are still  very territorial and can keep new cats from coming > in and repopulating the place. > Also, the feral cat collation may more information for what specifically you are > trying to do. Depending on where you live, they also may be able to help you find > an organization local to you that can help. > http://www.feralcat.com > Rhonda > I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion > — > The pineapple story is an "urban legand" she did not eat pineapple that night! > -Patsy Ramsey

Response:

Depends on what you want to do with them. You are right, older ferals are almost impossible to have as pets.  The older they get, the chance of them ever fully trusting you goes down.  I personally have never been able to get a true feral older then 1.5 years to be tame enough for someone to adopt them. If you re-release them into a feral colony, then chances are they are just going to reproduce unless you get them spayed/neutered first.    Their best bet for survival is to get them spayed/neutered and release them to where you caught them.  Although neutered, feral males are still  very territorial and can keep new cats from coming in and repopulating the place. Also, the feral cat collation may more information for what specifically you are trying to do. Depending on where you live, they also may be able to help you find an organization local to you that can help. http://www.feralcat.com Rhonda > I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion

– The pineapple story is an "urban legand" she did not eat pineapple that night! -Patsy Ramsey

Response:

How long have the cats been kept in kennels?  I know in my experience on trapping, fixing and re-releasing it is no longer than a week kept indoors recovering from surgery.  When re-releasing them make sure they are released in the same spot or around that area that they were trapped, have food there for them and they will go right to it. I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty. I’m dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite a while ago and kept in very samll kennels. Can these cats be re-released into a feral colony? If so, how does one go about that? I really don’t think anyone is going to take these cats as pets. Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and behavior? There must be another news group for that sort of thing. Thanks, Perihelion Animals are creatures of God, created by love and kindness, treat them as you would like to be treated.

Response:

If you go to my webpage at http://www.members.tripod.com/gclv there is a section with links on Ferals. Alley Cat Allies also has a video on trap, neuter, release and care of feral colonies. Lisa

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion

Response:

Perihelion, Dealing with ferels is a very interetsing subject, and there is someone here ( I always forget who) who is very into it and has a link to a website about ferels.  Hopefully that person will take a sec to focus on your question and help you out. In the meantime, try looking yourself for some expert advice about ferels on the internet.  I think there may be several sites.  "Ferel Cat Coalition" or something like that…? Is there a particular "colony" you would be releasing them into, or do you just mean letting them go?  Do you live in a neighborhood? You of course will be getting them neutered/spayed….? Some ferel cats actually CAN be socialized, but the younger they are the easier it is.  My kitty Francie was ferel and NASTY AS HELL, but she was about 9 month old when I started working on her.  It took a LONG TIME to even touch her.  She is now 2 and the sweetest cuddly kitty!  You can do it with patience, ambition, and time. So who is this freak that trapped and caged the cats?  Mean. Here’s a tip—I read somewhere, and believe it, that if you look straight into a cats eyes, especially when trying to communicate, they will learn to trust you more.  Kinda like people! Good luck to you and write back, ‘k? -Bee*i*vis

Response:

I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think anyone is going to take these cats as pets. Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. Thanks, Perihelion

Response:

Perihelion, can you please fix your computer so that it stops tagging your messages with the wrong date? Julie Carter — ICQ 1265510

Response:

Thanks for taking the time to read my plea.  Ultimately I just want the cats to be happy and I know they hate being locked up and they hate it when we try to clean their kennels.  I feel that spay/neuter and release is the best options for these cats – it’s just a matter of finding a place for them.  They were most likely trapped over a year ago.  I got word today that a couple of shelters in the area have taken a few of the cats including the ferals.  So, it’s out of my hands now, and I just hope things work out.  I know the cats won’t be put down.  I just don’t want them spending the rest of their lives in kennels.   Perihelion – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Depends on what you want to do with them. > You are right, older ferals are almost impossible to have as pets.  The older they > get, the chance of them ever fully trusting you goes down.  I personally have never > been able to get a true feral older then 1.5 years to be tame enough for someone to > adopt them. > If you re-release them into a feral colony, then chances are they are just going to > reproduce unless you get them spayed/neutered first.    Their best bet for survival > is to get them spayed/neutered and release them to where you caught them.  Although > neutered, feral males are still  very territorial and can keep new cats from coming > in and repopulating the place. > Also, the feral cat collation may more information for what specifically you are > trying to do. Depending on where you live, they also may be able to help you find > an organization local to you that can help. > http://www.feralcat.com > Rhonda > I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion > — > The pineapple story is an "urban legand" she did not eat pineapple that night! > -Patsy Ramsey

Response:

Depends on what you want to do with them. You are right, older ferals are almost impossible to have as pets.  The older they get, the chance of them ever fully trusting you goes down.  I personally have never been able to get a true feral older then 1.5 years to be tame enough for someone to adopt them. If you re-release them into a feral colony, then chances are they are just going to reproduce unless you get them spayed/neutered first.    Their best bet for survival is to get them spayed/neutered and release them to where you caught them.  Although neutered, feral males are still  very territorial and can keep new cats from coming in and repopulating the place. Also, the feral cat collation may more information for what specifically you are trying to do. Depending on where you live, they also may be able to help you find an organization local to you that can help. http://www.feralcat.com Rhonda > I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion

– The pineapple story is an "urban legand" she did not eat pineapple that night! -Patsy Ramsey

Response:

How long have the cats been kept in kennels?  I know in my experience on trapping, fixing and re-releasing it is no longer than a week kept indoors recovering from surgery.  When re-releasing them make sure they are released in the same spot or around that area that they were trapped, have food there for them and they will go right to it. I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty. I’m dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite a while ago and kept in very samll kennels. Can these cats be re-released into a feral colony? If so, how does one go about that? I really don’t think anyone is going to take these cats as pets. Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and behavior? There must be another news group for that sort of thing. Thanks, Perihelion Animals are creatures of God, created by love and kindness, treat them as you would like to be treated.

Response:

If you go to my webpage at http://www.members.tripod.com/gclv there is a section with links on Ferals. Alley Cat Allies also has a video on trap, neuter, release and care of feral colonies. Lisa

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion

Response:

Perihelion, Dealing with ferels is a very interetsing subject, and there is someone here ( I always forget who) who is very into it and has a link to a website about ferels.  Hopefully that person will take a sec to focus on your question and help you out. In the meantime, try looking yourself for some expert advice about ferels on the internet.  I think there may be several sites.  "Ferel Cat Coalition" or something like that…? Is there a particular "colony" you would be releasing them into, or do you just mean letting them go?  Do you live in a neighborhood? You of course will be getting them neutered/spayed….? Some ferel cats actually CAN be socialized, but the younger they are the easier it is.  My kitty Francie was ferel and NASTY AS HELL, but she was about 9 month old when I started working on her.  It took a LONG TIME to even touch her.  She is now 2 and the sweetest cuddly kitty!  You can do it with patience, ambition, and time. So who is this freak that trapped and caged the cats?  Mean. Here’s a tip—I read somewhere, and believe it, that if you look straight into a cats eyes, especially when trying to communicate, they will learn to trust you more.  Kinda like people! Good luck to you and write back, ‘k? -Bee*i*vis

Response:

I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think anyone is going to take these cats as pets. Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. Thanks, Perihelion

Response:

Perihelion, can you please fix your computer so that it stops tagging your messages with the wrong date? Julie Carter — ICQ 1265510

Response:

Thanks for taking the time to read my plea.  Ultimately I just want the cats to be happy and I know they hate being locked up and they hate it when we try to clean their kennels.  I feel that spay/neuter and release is the best options for these cats – it’s just a matter of finding a place for them.  They were most likely trapped over a year ago.  I got word today that a couple of shelters in the area have taken a few of the cats including the ferals.  So, it’s out of my hands now, and I just hope things work out.  I know the cats won’t be put down.  I just don’t want them spending the rest of their lives in kennels.   Perihelion – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Depends on what you want to do with them. > You are right, older ferals are almost impossible to have as pets.  The older they > get, the chance of them ever fully trusting you goes down.  I personally have never > been able to get a true feral older then 1.5 years to be tame enough for someone to > adopt them. > If you re-release them into a feral colony, then chances are they are just going to > reproduce unless you get them spayed/neutered first.    Their best bet for survival > is to get them spayed/neutered and release them to where you caught them.  Although > neutered, feral males are still  very territorial and can keep new cats from coming > in and repopulating the place. > Also, the feral cat collation may more information for what specifically you are > trying to do. Depending on where you live, they also may be able to help you find > an organization local to you that can help. > http://www.feralcat.com > Rhonda > I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion > — > The pineapple story is an "urban legand" she did not eat pineapple that night! > -Patsy Ramsey

Response:

Depends on what you want to do with them. You are right, older ferals are almost impossible to have as pets.  The older they get, the chance of them ever fully trusting you goes down.  I personally have never been able to get a true feral older then 1.5 years to be tame enough for someone to adopt them. If you re-release them into a feral colony, then chances are they are just going to reproduce unless you get them spayed/neutered first.    Their best bet for survival is to get them spayed/neutered and release them to where you caught them.  Although neutered, feral males are still  very territorial and can keep new cats from coming in and repopulating the place. Also, the feral cat collation may more information for what specifically you are trying to do. Depending on where you live, they also may be able to help you find an organization local to you that can help. http://www.feralcat.com Rhonda > I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion

– The pineapple story is an "urban legand" she did not eat pineapple that night! -Patsy Ramsey

Response:

How long have the cats been kept in kennels?  I know in my experience on trapping, fixing and re-releasing it is no longer than a week kept indoors recovering from surgery.  When re-releasing them make sure they are released in the same spot or around that area that they were trapped, have food there for them and they will go right to it. I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty. I’m dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite a while ago and kept in very samll kennels. Can these cats be re-released into a feral colony? If so, how does one go about that? I really don’t think anyone is going to take these cats as pets. Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and behavior? There must be another news group for that sort of thing. Thanks, Perihelion Animals are creatures of God, created by love and kindness, treat them as you would like to be treated.

Response:

If you go to my webpage at http://www.members.tripod.com/gclv there is a section with links on Ferals. Alley Cat Allies also has a video on trap, neuter, release and care of feral colonies. Lisa

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m > dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite > a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into > a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think > anyone is going to take these cats as pets. > Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and > behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. > Thanks, > Perihelion

Response:

Perihelion, Dealing with ferels is a very interetsing subject, and there is someone here ( I always forget who) who is very into it and has a link to a website about ferels.  Hopefully that person will take a sec to focus on your question and help you out. In the meantime, try looking yourself for some expert advice about ferels on the internet.  I think there may be several sites.  "Ferel Cat Coalition" or something like that…? Is there a particular "colony" you would be releasing them into, or do you just mean letting them go?  Do you live in a neighborhood? You of course will be getting them neutered/spayed….? Some ferel cats actually CAN be socialized, but the younger they are the easier it is.  My kitty Francie was ferel and NASTY AS HELL, but she was about 9 month old when I started working on her.  It took a LONG TIME to even touch her.  She is now 2 and the sweetest cuddly kitty!  You can do it with patience, ambition, and time. So who is this freak that trapped and caged the cats?  Mean. Here’s a tip—I read somewhere, and believe it, that if you look straight into a cats eyes, especially when trying to communicate, they will learn to trust you more.  Kinda like people! Good luck to you and write back, ‘k? -Bee*i*vis

Response:

I would like your thoughts on how to deal with feral cats in cusoty.  I’m dealing with about five really mean ferals that were trapped by a hoarder quite a while ago and kept in very samll kennels.  Can these cats be re-released into a feral colony?  If so, how does one go about that?  I really don’t think anyone is going to take these cats as pets. Can we talk about cat health and behavior rather than human health and behavior?  There must be another news group for that sort of thing. Thanks, Perihelion

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