Will the Fighting ever stop?
Question:
>Teri…your apology is accepted by the rest of us.
Thanks. sorry. >As for your question, many of us have had the same experience, and things >tend to improve with time, sometimes a long time.
Yeah, long is the word that I don’t like. But I am well aware that it isn’t up to me. At least so far no one has said I should "let them fight it out to get it out of their system". I am getting more used to the idea of keeping them separated when I am not around (I was all stressed out because no one I know ever had cats that couldn’t be trusted together), and will keep trying the "time-out" as soon as things take a turn in the wrong direction. Persistance and consistancy. Thanks Karen, also. >I’ve kept >some of mine separated at night for a year before they finally calmed down.
I guess "their rooms" are better than the shelter cages, but I still feel some guilt about putting them in one. Teri
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> Teri
Teri, I’d consider consulting a cat behaviorist and see if your vet can recommend one — the one we called in to help us with our cats not getting along gave us some very good info which helped and was well worth the $40 we spent for one in-home visit. HTH, Christine (meowmie to Omar, Midnight, Shetra & Oreo)
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>Teri, I’d consider consulting a cat behaviorist and see if your vet can >recommend one — the one we called in to help us with our cats not getting >along gave us some very good info which helped and was well worth the $40 we >spent for one in-home visit.
I have been very seriously considering that. I was expecting (for no real reason) $100, and thought that would be worth every cent if things improved – but don’t tell my mom that, I have been living with a leaky refrigerator for three years, too cheap to get a new one 
So $40! Sounds like a steal. Teri
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>It took us 6 months. I hear 3 months is average.
Ooh Ooh, I could live with three months, I could even live with six months, as long as there is an end to it! teri
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> uh oh. > I think this might now post about a hundred times. > I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that > messages were posting, so I kept trying…. > I apologize!! > Teri
Apology not accepted ;-P There’s really no excuse for that. That’s the top reason messages get overposted anywhere on the internet: webboards, newsgroups, even e-mails. If you don’t immediately see anything happening, just wait a while. Most internet applications never fail to work, they just fail to work quickly. Levi
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Teri…your apology is accepted by the rest of us. As for your question, many of us have had the same experience, and things tend to improve with time, sometimes a long time. I would advise that you continue to not let them go unsupervised until they calm down. I’ve kept some of mine separated at night for a year before they finally calmed down. With others, things go well after only a couple of days! Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> uh oh. > I think this might now post about a hundred times. > I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that > messages were posting, so I kept trying…. > I apologize!! > Teri > Apology not accepted ;-P > There’s really no excuse for that. That’s the top reason messages get > overposted anywhere on the internet: webboards, newsgroups, even e-mails. > If you don’t immediately see anything happening, just wait a while. Most > internet applications never fail to work, they just fail to work quickly. > Levi
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? > Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe > siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from > a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where > they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase > each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful > manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or > sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, > then starts to bite him. > The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is > bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and > they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to > get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her > back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get > under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for > about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. > How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt > (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate > them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in > "time out"…. > Anyone know why? > And how to stop this?? > Teri
It’s just this simple: When ever he gets too rough with her and bites too hard, let him you know you aren’t pleased. Bite him, sufficiently, back. Levi
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So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, then starts to bite him. The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in "time out"…. Anyone know why? And how to stop this?? Teri
Response:
uh oh. I think this might now post about a hundred times. I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that messages were posting, so I kept trying…. I apologize!! Teri
Response:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? > Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe > siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from > a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where > they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase > each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful > manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or > sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, > then starts to bite him. > The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is > bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and > they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to > get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her > back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get > under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for > about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. > How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt > (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate > them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in > "time out"…. > Anyone know why? > And how to stop this?? > Teri
Have you tried giving him time out in a separate room as soon as the grooming or horseplay looks like it is getting out of hand? Perhaps, persistant, repeated removal from temptation *at that point* will teach him how far to go. karen
Response:
>Teri…your apology is accepted by the rest of us.
Thanks. sorry. >As for your question, many of us have had the same experience, and things >tend to improve with time, sometimes a long time.
Yeah, long is the word that I don’t like. But I am well aware that it isn’t up to me. At least so far no one has said I should "let them fight it out to get it out of their system". I am getting more used to the idea of keeping them separated when I am not around (I was all stressed out because no one I know ever had cats that couldn’t be trusted together), and will keep trying the "time-out" as soon as things take a turn in the wrong direction. Persistance and consistancy. Thanks Karen, also. >I’ve kept >some of mine separated at night for a year before they finally calmed down.
I guess "their rooms" are better than the shelter cages, but I still feel some guilt about putting them in one. Teri
Response:
> Teri
Teri, I’d consider consulting a cat behaviorist and see if your vet can recommend one — the one we called in to help us with our cats not getting along gave us some very good info which helped and was well worth the $40 we spent for one in-home visit. HTH, Christine (meowmie to Omar, Midnight, Shetra & Oreo)
Response:
>Teri, I’d consider consulting a cat behaviorist and see if your vet can >recommend one — the one we called in to help us with our cats not getting >along gave us some very good info which helped and was well worth the $40 we >spent for one in-home visit.
I have been very seriously considering that. I was expecting (for no real reason) $100, and thought that would be worth every cent if things improved – but don’t tell my mom that, I have been living with a leaky refrigerator for three years, too cheap to get a new one So $40! Sounds like a steal. Teri
Response:
>It took us 6 months. I hear 3 months is average.
Ooh Ooh, I could live with three months, I could even live with six months, as long as there is an end to it! teri
Response:
> uh oh. > I think this might now post about a hundred times. > I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that > messages were posting, so I kept trying…. > I apologize!! > Teri
Apology not accepted ;-P There’s really no excuse for that. That’s the top reason messages get overposted anywhere on the internet: webboards, newsgroups, even e-mails. If you don’t immediately see anything happening, just wait a while. Most internet applications never fail to work, they just fail to work quickly. Levi
Response:
Teri…your apology is accepted by the rest of us. As for your question, many of us have had the same experience, and things tend to improve with time, sometimes a long time. I would advise that you continue to not let them go unsupervised until they calm down. I’ve kept some of mine separated at night for a year before they finally calmed down. With others, things go well after only a couple of days! Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> uh oh. > I think this might now post about a hundred times. > I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that > messages were posting, so I kept trying…. > I apologize!! > Teri > Apology not accepted ;-P > There’s really no excuse for that. That’s the top reason messages get > overposted anywhere on the internet: webboards, newsgroups, even e-mails. > If you don’t immediately see anything happening, just wait a while. Most > internet applications never fail to work, they just fail to work quickly. > Levi
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? > Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe > siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from > a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where > they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase > each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful > manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or > sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, > then starts to bite him. > The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is > bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and > they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to > get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her > back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get > under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for > about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. > How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt > (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate > them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in > "time out"…. > Anyone know why? > And how to stop this?? > Teri
It’s just this simple: When ever he gets too rough with her and bites too hard, let him you know you aren’t pleased. Bite him, sufficiently, back. Levi
Response:
So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, then starts to bite him. The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in "time out"…. Anyone know why? And how to stop this?? Teri
Response:
uh oh. I think this might now post about a hundred times. I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that messages were posting, so I kept trying…. I apologize!! Teri
Response:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? > Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe > siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from > a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where > they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase > each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful > manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or > sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, > then starts to bite him. > The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is > bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and > they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to > get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her > back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get > under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for > about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. > How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt > (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate > them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in > "time out"…. > Anyone know why? > And how to stop this?? > Teri
Have you tried giving him time out in a separate room as soon as the grooming or horseplay looks like it is getting out of hand? Perhaps, persistant, repeated removal from temptation *at that point* will teach him how far to go. karen
Response:
>Teri…your apology is accepted by the rest of us.
Thanks. sorry. >As for your question, many of us have had the same experience, and things >tend to improve with time, sometimes a long time.
Yeah, long is the word that I don’t like. But I am well aware that it isn’t up to me. At least so far no one has said I should "let them fight it out to get it out of their system". I am getting more used to the idea of keeping them separated when I am not around (I was all stressed out because no one I know ever had cats that couldn’t be trusted together), and will keep trying the "time-out" as soon as things take a turn in the wrong direction. Persistance and consistancy. Thanks Karen, also. >I’ve kept >some of mine separated at night for a year before they finally calmed down.
I guess "their rooms" are better than the shelter cages, but I still feel some guilt about putting them in one. Teri
Response:
> Teri
Teri, I’d consider consulting a cat behaviorist and see if your vet can recommend one — the one we called in to help us with our cats not getting along gave us some very good info which helped and was well worth the $40 we spent for one in-home visit. HTH, Christine (meowmie to Omar, Midnight, Shetra & Oreo)
Response:
>Teri, I’d consider consulting a cat behaviorist and see if your vet can >recommend one — the one we called in to help us with our cats not getting >along gave us some very good info which helped and was well worth the $40 we >spent for one in-home visit.
I have been very seriously considering that. I was expecting (for no real reason) $100, and thought that would be worth every cent if things improved – but don’t tell my mom that, I have been living with a leaky refrigerator for three years, too cheap to get a new one So $40! Sounds like a steal. Teri
Response:
>It took us 6 months. I hear 3 months is average.
Ooh Ooh, I could live with three months, I could even live with six months, as long as there is an end to it! teri
Response:
> uh oh. > I think this might now post about a hundred times. > I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that > messages were posting, so I kept trying…. > I apologize!! > Teri
Apology not accepted ;-P There’s really no excuse for that. That’s the top reason messages get overposted anywhere on the internet: webboards, newsgroups, even e-mails. If you don’t immediately see anything happening, just wait a while. Most internet applications never fail to work, they just fail to work quickly. Levi
Response:
Teri…your apology is accepted by the rest of us. As for your question, many of us have had the same experience, and things tend to improve with time, sometimes a long time. I would advise that you continue to not let them go unsupervised until they calm down. I’ve kept some of mine separated at night for a year before they finally calmed down. With others, things go well after only a couple of days! Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> uh oh. > I think this might now post about a hundred times. > I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that > messages were posting, so I kept trying…. > I apologize!! > Teri > Apology not accepted ;-P > There’s really no excuse for that. That’s the top reason messages get > overposted anywhere on the internet: webboards, newsgroups, even e-mails. > If you don’t immediately see anything happening, just wait a while. Most > internet applications never fail to work, they just fail to work quickly. > Levi
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? > Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe > siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from > a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where > they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase > each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful > manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or > sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, > then starts to bite him. > The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is > bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and > they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to > get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her > back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get > under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for > about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. > How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt > (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate > them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in > "time out"…. > Anyone know why? > And how to stop this?? > Teri
It’s just this simple: When ever he gets too rough with her and bites too hard, let him you know you aren’t pleased. Bite him, sufficiently, back. Levi
Response:
So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, then starts to bite him. The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in "time out"…. Anyone know why? And how to stop this?? Teri
Response:
uh oh. I think this might now post about a hundred times. I was having trouble with my server and it was not showing me that messages were posting, so I kept trying…. I apologize!! Teri
Response:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> So who knows a lot about cat behavior?? > Briefly, I got two cats seven weeks ago, both about 2, male snowshoe > siamese neutered five weeks ago, and female already spayed. Both from > a shelter, did not know each other. We are at the point now where > they can hang out together and he even grooms her. They will chase > each other around like crazy and pounce at each other in a playful > manner. But that usually will eventually end up with a fight. Or > sometimes he won’t stop licking her until she tries up push him away, > then starts to bite him. > The male is always the one who wins no matter who starts it. He is > bigger and faster, there is hissing, screaming, biting, growling and > they are locked tight together. He will chase her when she tries to > get away and attack her from behind, knocking her down and biting her > back. She is smaller and he even chases her when she tries to get > under the bed or somewhere and he keeps biting her. This happens for > about half an hour maybe three or four times a day. > How can I stop it???? I really don’t want her to get hurt > (obviously)! I never leave them home alone together, and separate > them at nite. I tried the water gun, newspaper noise, putting him in > "time out"…. > Anyone know why? > And how to stop this?? > Teri
Have you tried giving him time out in a separate room as soon as the grooming or horseplay looks like it is getting out of hand? Perhaps, persistant, repeated removal from temptation *at that point* will teach him how far to go. karen
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