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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
Perhaps diverting them by a play option will help. Though I let Matilda out from time to time, there are times when I don’t believe this is a good thing, so bringing out her favorite toy and spending half an hour or so playing with her is of great help. Judy & Matilda Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed 00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!uunet!ash .uu.net!sac.uu.net!lax.uu.net!news.navix.net!u.n.a.c.4.n.c.3.l.l.e.r Newsgroups: news.admin.censorship,alt.test,rec.pets.cats.health+behav Organization: Navix Internet Subscribers Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.102.15.34 X-No-Archive: yes Comment: Dude, where’s my NewsAgent? Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40289973 autocancel
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What about getting harnesses and long leads and taking them out to the backyard? You can get a long lead by buying two or more and linking them together, then attach them to the porch or something sturdy. This way they can go outside, explore your backyard and still be confined to your yard. Tracy > My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
The only thoughts I have are to maybe try them with a harness and leash; or make sure they have a nice tall cat tree with a view of a bird feeder out the window (what we did; we also have a cat walking jacket but haven’t had good enough weather to use it yet.) Christine Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online .de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!osa.uu.net!sac.uu.net! lax.uu.net!news.navix.net!u.n.a.c.4.n.c.3.l.l.e.r Newsgroups: news.admin.censorship,alt.test,rec.pets.cats.health+behav Organization: Navix Internet Subscribers Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.102.15.34 X-No-Archive: yes Comment: Dude, where’s my NewsAgent? Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40290801 autocancel
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I’m currently pursuing a Masters Degree (so I can become a cat behaviorist). I’ve read over 45 books on cat behavior (written by vets & other cat behaviorists.) Every single one of them warns against letting cats roam outside. There have been many posts in each cat based newsgroups citing major injuries, the loss or the death of someone’s pets. Why play Russian Roulette with your loved one by exposing him/her to the dangers of the outdoors. There will be those who post in protest – claiming it’s cruel to leave the cats indoors (and they always prefer that over the possibility that a car will run over the cat, the neighbors dog will maul their pet, a squirrel, racoon or other animal will tear him/her to pieces, or the cat never comes back. Bottom line: if you love your pet, you’d want to protect him/her and would never want anything to happen. So, indoors he/she will stay!
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>My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them >both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great >time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and >couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s >house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me >think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, >cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But >ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I >know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them >(and me) feel better without letting them back out? >Thanks.
If you have the space and the resources, you could build them an enclosure outside. I did that several years ago and constructed a ramp leading from a window down into the pen so they could come and go as they pleased. It’s not thrilling to explore for them, but it does allow them to be outdoors. Oh and I also put a door on the pen and padlocked it when I wasn’t around. ~~Kathi Stein~~ Please remove NOSPAM before replying via email.
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>I’m currently pursuing a Masters Degree (so I can become a cat behaviorist). >I’ve read over 45 books on cat behavior (written by vets & other cat >behaviorists.) Every single one of them warns against letting cats roam >outside.
I think you have missed a couple of books on feline behavior by Nicholas Dodman and Roger Tabor, then.
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I’ve rigged bird netting at 7 feet high all along the perimeter of my 50 x 120 ft. backyard. The cats go out daily, and cannot escape. They love it, I love it, everybody is happy. If you want details, let me know. It was cheap and pretty easy to do.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You can get a long lead by buying two or >more and linking them together, then >attach them to the porch or something >sturdy. This way they can go outside, >explore your backyard and still be >confined to your yard. > They will also be sitting ducks with no means of escape if a cat-eating > dog or cruel kid, etc. gets in the yard, and the OP said these types of > menaces are plentiful in her neighborhood. > Taking the cats out for walks on a harness/leash would be a good > compromise between the OP and her cats, but leaving them tied out is not > a good idea. > Megan > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing." > -Edmund Burke > Learn The TRUTH About Declawing > http://www.stopdeclaw.com > Zuzu’s Cats Photo Album: > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=244574
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My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them (and me) feel better without letting them back out? Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
The only thoughts I have are to maybe try them with a harness and leash; or make sure they have a nice tall cat tree with a view of a bird feeder out the window (what we did; we also have a cat walking jacket but haven’t had good enough weather to use it yet.) Christine
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What about getting harnesses and long leads and taking them out to the backyard? You can get a long lead by buying two or more and linking them together, then attach them to the porch or something sturdy. This way they can go outside, explore your backyard and still be confined to your yard. Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
Perhaps diverting them by a play option will help. Though I let Matilda out from time to time, there are times when I don’t believe this is a good thing, so bringing out her favorite toy and spending half an hour or so playing with her is of great help. Judy & Matilda
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>You can get a long lead by buying two or >more and linking them together, then >attach them to the porch or something >sturdy. This way they can go outside, >explore your backyard and still be >confined to your yard.
They will also be sitting ducks with no means of escape if a cat-eating dog or cruel kid, etc. gets in the yard, and the OP said these types of menaces are plentiful in her neighborhood. Taking the cats out for walks on a harness/leash would be a good compromise between the OP and her cats, but leaving them tied out is not a good idea. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu’s Cats Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=244574
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
Perhaps diverting them by a play option will help. Though I let Matilda out from time to time, there are times when I don’t believe this is a good thing, so bringing out her favorite toy and spending half an hour or so playing with her is of great help. Judy & Matilda Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed 00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!uunet!ash .uu.net!sac.uu.net!lax.uu.net!news.navix.net!u.n.a.c.4.n.c.3.l.l.e.r Newsgroups: news.admin.censorship,alt.test,rec.pets.cats.health+behav Organization: Navix Internet Subscribers Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.102.15.34 X-No-Archive: yes Comment: Dude, where’s my NewsAgent? Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40289973 autocancel
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What about getting harnesses and long leads and taking them out to the backyard? You can get a long lead by buying two or more and linking them together, then attach them to the porch or something sturdy. This way they can go outside, explore your backyard and still be confined to your yard. Tracy > My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
The only thoughts I have are to maybe try them with a harness and leash; or make sure they have a nice tall cat tree with a view of a bird feeder out the window (what we did; we also have a cat walking jacket but haven’t had good enough weather to use it yet.) Christine Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online .de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!osa.uu.net!sac.uu.net! lax.uu.net!news.navix.net!u.n.a.c.4.n.c.3.l.l.e.r Newsgroups: news.admin.censorship,alt.test,rec.pets.cats.health+behav Organization: Navix Internet Subscribers Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.102.15.34 X-No-Archive: yes Comment: Dude, where’s my NewsAgent? Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40290801 autocancel
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I’m currently pursuing a Masters Degree (so I can become a cat behaviorist). I’ve read over 45 books on cat behavior (written by vets & other cat behaviorists.) Every single one of them warns against letting cats roam outside. There have been many posts in each cat based newsgroups citing major injuries, the loss or the death of someone’s pets. Why play Russian Roulette with your loved one by exposing him/her to the dangers of the outdoors. There will be those who post in protest – claiming it’s cruel to leave the cats indoors (and they always prefer that over the possibility that a car will run over the cat, the neighbors dog will maul their pet, a squirrel, racoon or other animal will tear him/her to pieces, or the cat never comes back. Bottom line: if you love your pet, you’d want to protect him/her and would never want anything to happen. So, indoors he/she will stay!
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>My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them >both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great >time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and >couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s >house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me >think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, >cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But >ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I >know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them >(and me) feel better without letting them back out? >Thanks.
If you have the space and the resources, you could build them an enclosure outside. I did that several years ago and constructed a ramp leading from a window down into the pen so they could come and go as they pleased. It’s not thrilling to explore for them, but it does allow them to be outdoors. Oh and I also put a door on the pen and padlocked it when I wasn’t around. ~~Kathi Stein~~ Please remove NOSPAM before replying via email.
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>I’m currently pursuing a Masters Degree (so I can become a cat behaviorist). >I’ve read over 45 books on cat behavior (written by vets & other cat >behaviorists.) Every single one of them warns against letting cats roam >outside.
I think you have missed a couple of books on feline behavior by Nicholas Dodman and Roger Tabor, then.
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I’ve rigged bird netting at 7 feet high all along the perimeter of my 50 x 120 ft. backyard. The cats go out daily, and cannot escape. They love it, I love it, everybody is happy. If you want details, let me know. It was cheap and pretty easy to do.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You can get a long lead by buying two or >more and linking them together, then >attach them to the porch or something >sturdy. This way they can go outside, >explore your backyard and still be >confined to your yard. > They will also be sitting ducks with no means of escape if a cat-eating > dog or cruel kid, etc. gets in the yard, and the OP said these types of > menaces are plentiful in her neighborhood. > Taking the cats out for walks on a harness/leash would be a good > compromise between the OP and her cats, but leaving them tied out is not > a good idea. > Megan > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing." > -Edmund Burke > Learn The TRUTH About Declawing > http://www.stopdeclaw.com > Zuzu’s Cats Photo Album: > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=244574
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My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them (and me) feel better without letting them back out? Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
The only thoughts I have are to maybe try them with a harness and leash; or make sure they have a nice tall cat tree with a view of a bird feeder out the window (what we did; we also have a cat walking jacket but haven’t had good enough weather to use it yet.) Christine
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What about getting harnesses and long leads and taking them out to the backyard? You can get a long lead by buying two or more and linking them together, then attach them to the porch or something sturdy. This way they can go outside, explore your backyard and still be confined to your yard. Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
Perhaps diverting them by a play option will help. Though I let Matilda out from time to time, there are times when I don’t believe this is a good thing, so bringing out her favorite toy and spending half an hour or so playing with her is of great help. Judy & Matilda
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>You can get a long lead by buying two or >more and linking them together, then >attach them to the porch or something >sturdy. This way they can go outside, >explore your backyard and still be >confined to your yard.
They will also be sitting ducks with no means of escape if a cat-eating dog or cruel kid, etc. gets in the yard, and the OP said these types of menaces are plentiful in her neighborhood. Taking the cats out for walks on a harness/leash would be a good compromise between the OP and her cats, but leaving them tied out is not a good idea. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu’s Cats Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=244574
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
Perhaps diverting them by a play option will help. Though I let Matilda out from time to time, there are times when I don’t believe this is a good thing, so bringing out her favorite toy and spending half an hour or so playing with her is of great help. Judy & Matilda Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed 00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!uunet!ash .uu.net!sac.uu.net!lax.uu.net!news.navix.net!u.n.a.c.4.n.c.3.l.l.e.r Newsgroups: news.admin.censorship,alt.test,rec.pets.cats.health+behav Organization: Navix Internet Subscribers Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.102.15.34 X-No-Archive: yes Comment: Dude, where’s my NewsAgent? Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40289973 autocancel
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What about getting harnesses and long leads and taking them out to the backyard? You can get a long lead by buying two or more and linking them together, then attach them to the porch or something sturdy. This way they can go outside, explore your backyard and still be confined to your yard. Tracy > My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
The only thoughts I have are to maybe try them with a harness and leash; or make sure they have a nice tall cat tree with a view of a bird feeder out the window (what we did; we also have a cat walking jacket but haven’t had good enough weather to use it yet.) Christine Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online .de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!osa.uu.net!sac.uu.net! lax.uu.net!news.navix.net!u.n.a.c.4.n.c.3.l.l.e.r Newsgroups: news.admin.censorship,alt.test,rec.pets.cats.health+behav Organization: Navix Internet Subscribers Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.102.15.34 X-No-Archive: yes Comment: Dude, where’s my NewsAgent? Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40290801 autocancel
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I’m currently pursuing a Masters Degree (so I can become a cat behaviorist). I’ve read over 45 books on cat behavior (written by vets & other cat behaviorists.) Every single one of them warns against letting cats roam outside. There have been many posts in each cat based newsgroups citing major injuries, the loss or the death of someone’s pets. Why play Russian Roulette with your loved one by exposing him/her to the dangers of the outdoors. There will be those who post in protest – claiming it’s cruel to leave the cats indoors (and they always prefer that over the possibility that a car will run over the cat, the neighbors dog will maul their pet, a squirrel, racoon or other animal will tear him/her to pieces, or the cat never comes back. Bottom line: if you love your pet, you’d want to protect him/her and would never want anything to happen. So, indoors he/she will stay!
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>My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them >both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great >time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and >couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s >house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me >think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, >cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But >ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I >know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them >(and me) feel better without letting them back out? >Thanks.
If you have the space and the resources, you could build them an enclosure outside. I did that several years ago and constructed a ramp leading from a window down into the pen so they could come and go as they pleased. It’s not thrilling to explore for them, but it does allow them to be outdoors. Oh and I also put a door on the pen and padlocked it when I wasn’t around. ~~Kathi Stein~~ Please remove NOSPAM before replying via email.
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>I’m currently pursuing a Masters Degree (so I can become a cat behaviorist). >I’ve read over 45 books on cat behavior (written by vets & other cat >behaviorists.) Every single one of them warns against letting cats roam >outside.
I think you have missed a couple of books on feline behavior by Nicholas Dodman and Roger Tabor, then.
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I’ve rigged bird netting at 7 feet high all along the perimeter of my 50 x 120 ft. backyard. The cats go out daily, and cannot escape. They love it, I love it, everybody is happy. If you want details, let me know. It was cheap and pretty easy to do.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You can get a long lead by buying two or >more and linking them together, then >attach them to the porch or something >sturdy. This way they can go outside, >explore your backyard and still be >confined to your yard. > They will also be sitting ducks with no means of escape if a cat-eating > dog or cruel kid, etc. gets in the yard, and the OP said these types of > menaces are plentiful in her neighborhood. > Taking the cats out for walks on a harness/leash would be a good > compromise between the OP and her cats, but leaving them tied out is not > a good idea. > Megan > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing." > -Edmund Burke > Learn The TRUTH About Declawing > http://www.stopdeclaw.com > Zuzu’s Cats Photo Album: > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=244574
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My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them (and me) feel better without letting them back out? Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
The only thoughts I have are to maybe try them with a harness and leash; or make sure they have a nice tall cat tree with a view of a bird feeder out the window (what we did; we also have a cat walking jacket but haven’t had good enough weather to use it yet.) Christine
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What about getting harnesses and long leads and taking them out to the backyard? You can get a long lead by buying two or more and linking them together, then attach them to the porch or something sturdy. This way they can go outside, explore your backyard and still be confined to your yard. Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
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> My two indoor cats are always trying to escape so last week I let them > both wander around the fenced back yard for awhile. They had a great > time until one of them jumped the fence into a neighbor’s yard and > couldn’t figure out how to get back. I had to go over to the neighbor’s > house and get him and the neighbor guy was very threatening. Made me > think there are too many dangers in my neighborhood (dogs, angry humans, > cars) for them and they have to be resolve to be just indoor cats. But > ever since then they have moaned and meowed constantly to get out. I > know they’ll forget eventually, but any suggestions on how to make them > (and me) feel better without letting them back out? > Thanks.
Perhaps diverting them by a play option will help. Though I let Matilda out from time to time, there are times when I don’t believe this is a good thing, so bringing out her favorite toy and spending half an hour or so playing with her is of great help. Judy & Matilda
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>You can get a long lead by buying two or >more and linking them together, then >attach them to the porch or something >sturdy. This way they can go outside, >explore your backyard and still be >confined to your yard.
They will also be sitting ducks with no means of escape if a cat-eating dog or cruel kid, etc. gets in the yard, and the OP said these types of menaces are plentiful in her neighborhood. Taking the cats out for walks on a harness/leash would be a good compromise between the OP and her cats, but leaving them tied out is not a good idea. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu’s Cats Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=244574
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