Advice needed – I dont want to say goodbye!
Question:
I don’t have advice for you…sorry, but am I reading this right…that your friends think that by the time cats are 1 year old they do not eat plants, pluck carpets through closed doors, etc.? These are natural cat behaviors! They eat plants to help them digest (or vomit up as the case may be), and they pluck carpets through closed doors, because they are against the law in cat societies! :-) Erin >I’m also saddend the my friend tells me that "no- cat’s aged 1 are not >mischeavous – they dont eat plants and pluck at carpets when the cant >get in a room". This is disturbing also as I honestly thought I had >dont a wonderful job of bringing them up
No animals in my address
Response:
Rob, I don’t think you should give up on your kitties. They are just a little over a year now. The first year is the most active. I am not saying they are going to be perfect angels now but they do get less active as they get older. Couldn’t you take them in when you get your new place? Maybe you could set up a fish tank for them to look at. Do you have an extra room that could be the cats room that you could keep filled with their toys and stuff for them to do, cushions for them to sleep on, cat nip, maybe a window seat for them to sit on and look out? You could hang up a piece of a rug on one of the walls for them to scratch at. If you ever want to have a cat you may have to go through the kitten stage again, so why not stick with the two you already have and love. Good luck. Diane * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Response:
Hi Rob Have you ask the CPL or SSPCA If there is anyone they know who will foster them. Good luck Penny >Hi Gerry, >Thanks for the advice!
(snip)when I would be at home with the cats – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Before you buy.
Response:
I think you should move into your own place again and keep the cats. Get them a scratching post at least 30" tall and a floor to ceiling cat tree with resting perches. I take my cats out with a harness and lead but I started when they were kittens. It might be harder to train them for this when they are older. Cats are not like dogs on a leash. Dogs go from tree to tree and rather follow a path but the cats prefer to stay near bushes and trees. They might lie down for awhile and bask in the sun. You can tie them out but you have to be there to watch them as they can get tangled up. Be sure to use a harness. I hope you keep them as it is hard to find homes for cats because everyone wants the kittens. www.catshots.com
Response:
Hi All, Forgive me for not checking out the postings in this group before popping my problems in here, I’m need some advice before the end of the day you see. To cut a long story short… About a year ago I took Scampie in at 8 weeks to my 2nd floor flat. I checked with the Cats Protection League (I’m in Scotland by the way) and my vet and they both re-assured me that an indoor kitten will be just as happy as an outdoor one. After about 2 month she started to run around like a nutter and I just couldnt keep up – so I took in her twin brother fudge in an attempt to keep them both happy. By the time we moved out of the flat (6 months later) they had caused nearly 400 ukp or about 600usd of damage to the carpets, and door frames. Undetered I moved into my new flat and again they caused damage to the wallpaper, etc. I tried to resolve these problems by taking fudge out on a lead outside – but this was unsucessfull and he simply fought for freedom all the time. Sadly this was not an option as I was in the middle of the city centre. Just last month we were made an offer we could not refuse to move to my girlfriends mum’s. Unfortunatly she does not share in our cat loving world and would not take them. As this was only to be a temporary arrangment until we bought our own flat (6-12 months) we tried and tried and tried to get a temporary home for them. We found someone at the last mintue but now she is saying that the problems they are causing are not worth the hassle for her and she want me to get them back. I cannot take them myself so they are going to have to be re-homed by the cats protection league, which is very very sad for us. As you know you become so attached to them I feel like I am saying goodbye to me babies. It took 3.5 months to find someone to take them in the first place – do you think I should just give-up now and get the cat’s protection league to take them in? I feel I am letting them down so much – but what other options to I have? One option was to turn fudge into an outdoor cat. He would be fine – but his sister wouldnt and I so much didn’t want to split them up. I’m also saddend the my friend tells me that "no- cat’s aged 1 are not mischeavous – they dont eat plants and pluck at carpets when the cant get in a room". This is disturbing also as I honestly thought I had dont a wonderful job of bringing them up – the vet said on 1 week ago they were both in perfect health! Any suggestions would be very gratefully recieved. (Or any positive messages or experiences about having to say goodbye to them?) Thankyou so much Rob Cooper Before you buy.
Response:
Hi Rob, I am sorry to hear about your problem. I don’t have any good advice to give you about how to say "goodbye" to them, however, if it is not too late, i do have a little piece of advice about how to get them to behave. From what i read, it sounds to me like all the two kitties have is each other to play with and so they provide each other with "stimulation". A kitty left to it own devices will get into anything. If you have not already done this, may i suggest that you get your kitties plenty of toys to keep their minds and bodies stimulated. That is why they are tearing up the house etc. because the whole house has become their toys. They need to be taught what to play with and what not to play with. If they had actual kitty toys, you could correct them when you saw they were playing with something "wrong" and give them they toy and teach them to play with it. It will take some time and patience on your part to train them but it can be done. And remember Rob, the more toys they have, the happier they will be. Why not for starters roll up a ball of aluminum foil and have them chase it. What about getting a piece of string and tie the string around a rolled up piece of paper and pull the string along and they will chase it. The important thing here is provide the kitties with a constructive way to spend their high energy levels and the best way to do that is with toys. I hope that this helps you a little bit. Good Luck, gerry
Response:
Hi Gerry, Thanks for the advice! I think the main problem was that when I would be at home with the cats I would play with them "too much"! Ive spent a silly amount on toys! And made loads for them. They are lucky in that the rarely have to play with the toys by themselves as I have been very interactive with them. I suspect this has been the cause of the problems, as when we’ve been in and asleep or have not been able to give them attention – that’s when the problems have occured. Unfortunatly it’s all come a bit late now though as it doesn’t look like I’ll ever get the chance to play with them again 
Thanks anyway! Rob Cooper Before you buy.
Response:
I don’t have advice for you…sorry, but am I reading this right…that your friends think that by the time cats are 1 year old they do not eat plants, pluck carpets through closed doors, etc.? These are natural cat behaviors! They eat plants to help them digest (or vomit up as the case may be), and they pluck carpets through closed doors, because they are against the law in cat societies! :-) Erin >I’m also saddend the my friend tells me that "no- cat’s aged 1 are not >mischeavous – they dont eat plants and pluck at carpets when the cant >get in a room". This is disturbing also as I honestly thought I had >dont a wonderful job of bringing them up
No animals in my address
Response:
Rob, I don’t think you should give up on your kitties. They are just a little over a year now. The first year is the most active. I am not saying they are going to be perfect angels now but they do get less active as they get older. Couldn’t you take them in when you get your new place? Maybe you could set up a fish tank for them to look at. Do you have an extra room that could be the cats room that you could keep filled with their toys and stuff for them to do, cushions for them to sleep on, cat nip, maybe a window seat for them to sit on and look out? You could hang up a piece of a rug on one of the walls for them to scratch at. If you ever want to have a cat you may have to go through the kitten stage again, so why not stick with the two you already have and love. Good luck. Diane * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Response:
Hi Rob Have you ask the CPL or SSPCA If there is anyone they know who will foster them. Good luck Penny >Hi Gerry, >Thanks for the advice!
(snip)when I would be at home with the cats – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Before you buy.
Response:
I think you should move into your own place again and keep the cats. Get them a scratching post at least 30" tall and a floor to ceiling cat tree with resting perches. I take my cats out with a harness and lead but I started when they were kittens. It might be harder to train them for this when they are older. Cats are not like dogs on a leash. Dogs go from tree to tree and rather follow a path but the cats prefer to stay near bushes and trees. They might lie down for awhile and bask in the sun. You can tie them out but you have to be there to watch them as they can get tangled up. Be sure to use a harness. I hope you keep them as it is hard to find homes for cats because everyone wants the kittens. www.catshots.com
Response:
Hi All, Forgive me for not checking out the postings in this group before popping my problems in here, I’m need some advice before the end of the day you see. To cut a long story short… About a year ago I took Scampie in at 8 weeks to my 2nd floor flat. I checked with the Cats Protection League (I’m in Scotland by the way) and my vet and they both re-assured me that an indoor kitten will be just as happy as an outdoor one. After about 2 month she started to run around like a nutter and I just couldnt keep up – so I took in her twin brother fudge in an attempt to keep them both happy. By the time we moved out of the flat (6 months later) they had caused nearly 400 ukp or about 600usd of damage to the carpets, and door frames. Undetered I moved into my new flat and again they caused damage to the wallpaper, etc. I tried to resolve these problems by taking fudge out on a lead outside – but this was unsucessfull and he simply fought for freedom all the time. Sadly this was not an option as I was in the middle of the city centre. Just last month we were made an offer we could not refuse to move to my girlfriends mum’s. Unfortunatly she does not share in our cat loving world and would not take them. As this was only to be a temporary arrangment until we bought our own flat (6-12 months) we tried and tried and tried to get a temporary home for them. We found someone at the last mintue but now she is saying that the problems they are causing are not worth the hassle for her and she want me to get them back. I cannot take them myself so they are going to have to be re-homed by the cats protection league, which is very very sad for us. As you know you become so attached to them I feel like I am saying goodbye to me babies. It took 3.5 months to find someone to take them in the first place – do you think I should just give-up now and get the cat’s protection league to take them in? I feel I am letting them down so much – but what other options to I have? One option was to turn fudge into an outdoor cat. He would be fine – but his sister wouldnt and I so much didn’t want to split them up. I’m also saddend the my friend tells me that "no- cat’s aged 1 are not mischeavous – they dont eat plants and pluck at carpets when the cant get in a room". This is disturbing also as I honestly thought I had dont a wonderful job of bringing them up – the vet said on 1 week ago they were both in perfect health! Any suggestions would be very gratefully recieved. (Or any positive messages or experiences about having to say goodbye to them?) Thankyou so much Rob Cooper Before you buy.
Response:
Hi Rob, I am sorry to hear about your problem. I don’t have any good advice to give you about how to say "goodbye" to them, however, if it is not too late, i do have a little piece of advice about how to get them to behave. From what i read, it sounds to me like all the two kitties have is each other to play with and so they provide each other with "stimulation". A kitty left to it own devices will get into anything. If you have not already done this, may i suggest that you get your kitties plenty of toys to keep their minds and bodies stimulated. That is why they are tearing up the house etc. because the whole house has become their toys. They need to be taught what to play with and what not to play with. If they had actual kitty toys, you could correct them when you saw they were playing with something "wrong" and give them they toy and teach them to play with it. It will take some time and patience on your part to train them but it can be done. And remember Rob, the more toys they have, the happier they will be. Why not for starters roll up a ball of aluminum foil and have them chase it. What about getting a piece of string and tie the string around a rolled up piece of paper and pull the string along and they will chase it. The important thing here is provide the kitties with a constructive way to spend their high energy levels and the best way to do that is with toys. I hope that this helps you a little bit. Good Luck, gerry
Response:
Hi Gerry, Thanks for the advice! I think the main problem was that when I would be at home with the cats I would play with them "too much"! Ive spent a silly amount on toys! And made loads for them. They are lucky in that the rarely have to play with the toys by themselves as I have been very interactive with them. I suspect this has been the cause of the problems, as when we’ve been in and asleep or have not been able to give them attention – that’s when the problems have occured. Unfortunatly it’s all come a bit late now though as it doesn’t look like I’ll ever get the chance to play with them again Thanks anyway! Rob Cooper Before you buy.
Response:
I don’t have advice for you…sorry, but am I reading this right…that your friends think that by the time cats are 1 year old they do not eat plants, pluck carpets through closed doors, etc.? These are natural cat behaviors! They eat plants to help them digest (or vomit up as the case may be), and they pluck carpets through closed doors, because they are against the law in cat societies! :-) Erin >I’m also saddend the my friend tells me that "no- cat’s aged 1 are not >mischeavous – they dont eat plants and pluck at carpets when the cant >get in a room". This is disturbing also as I honestly thought I had >dont a wonderful job of bringing them up
No animals in my address
Response:
Rob, I don’t think you should give up on your kitties. They are just a little over a year now. The first year is the most active. I am not saying they are going to be perfect angels now but they do get less active as they get older. Couldn’t you take them in when you get your new place? Maybe you could set up a fish tank for them to look at. Do you have an extra room that could be the cats room that you could keep filled with their toys and stuff for them to do, cushions for them to sleep on, cat nip, maybe a window seat for them to sit on and look out? You could hang up a piece of a rug on one of the walls for them to scratch at. If you ever want to have a cat you may have to go through the kitten stage again, so why not stick with the two you already have and love. Good luck. Diane * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Response:
Hi Rob Have you ask the CPL or SSPCA If there is anyone they know who will foster them. Good luck Penny >Hi Gerry, >Thanks for the advice!
(snip)when I would be at home with the cats – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Before you buy.
Response:
I think you should move into your own place again and keep the cats. Get them a scratching post at least 30" tall and a floor to ceiling cat tree with resting perches. I take my cats out with a harness and lead but I started when they were kittens. It might be harder to train them for this when they are older. Cats are not like dogs on a leash. Dogs go from tree to tree and rather follow a path but the cats prefer to stay near bushes and trees. They might lie down for awhile and bask in the sun. You can tie them out but you have to be there to watch them as they can get tangled up. Be sure to use a harness. I hope you keep them as it is hard to find homes for cats because everyone wants the kittens. www.catshots.com
Response:
Hi All, Forgive me for not checking out the postings in this group before popping my problems in here, I’m need some advice before the end of the day you see. To cut a long story short… About a year ago I took Scampie in at 8 weeks to my 2nd floor flat. I checked with the Cats Protection League (I’m in Scotland by the way) and my vet and they both re-assured me that an indoor kitten will be just as happy as an outdoor one. After about 2 month she started to run around like a nutter and I just couldnt keep up – so I took in her twin brother fudge in an attempt to keep them both happy. By the time we moved out of the flat (6 months later) they had caused nearly 400 ukp or about 600usd of damage to the carpets, and door frames. Undetered I moved into my new flat and again they caused damage to the wallpaper, etc. I tried to resolve these problems by taking fudge out on a lead outside – but this was unsucessfull and he simply fought for freedom all the time. Sadly this was not an option as I was in the middle of the city centre. Just last month we were made an offer we could not refuse to move to my girlfriends mum’s. Unfortunatly she does not share in our cat loving world and would not take them. As this was only to be a temporary arrangment until we bought our own flat (6-12 months) we tried and tried and tried to get a temporary home for them. We found someone at the last mintue but now she is saying that the problems they are causing are not worth the hassle for her and she want me to get them back. I cannot take them myself so they are going to have to be re-homed by the cats protection league, which is very very sad for us. As you know you become so attached to them I feel like I am saying goodbye to me babies. It took 3.5 months to find someone to take them in the first place – do you think I should just give-up now and get the cat’s protection league to take them in? I feel I am letting them down so much – but what other options to I have? One option was to turn fudge into an outdoor cat. He would be fine – but his sister wouldnt and I so much didn’t want to split them up. I’m also saddend the my friend tells me that "no- cat’s aged 1 are not mischeavous – they dont eat plants and pluck at carpets when the cant get in a room". This is disturbing also as I honestly thought I had dont a wonderful job of bringing them up – the vet said on 1 week ago they were both in perfect health! Any suggestions would be very gratefully recieved. (Or any positive messages or experiences about having to say goodbye to them?) Thankyou so much Rob Cooper Before you buy.
Response:
Hi Rob, I am sorry to hear about your problem. I don’t have any good advice to give you about how to say "goodbye" to them, however, if it is not too late, i do have a little piece of advice about how to get them to behave. From what i read, it sounds to me like all the two kitties have is each other to play with and so they provide each other with "stimulation". A kitty left to it own devices will get into anything. If you have not already done this, may i suggest that you get your kitties plenty of toys to keep their minds and bodies stimulated. That is why they are tearing up the house etc. because the whole house has become their toys. They need to be taught what to play with and what not to play with. If they had actual kitty toys, you could correct them when you saw they were playing with something "wrong" and give them they toy and teach them to play with it. It will take some time and patience on your part to train them but it can be done. And remember Rob, the more toys they have, the happier they will be. Why not for starters roll up a ball of aluminum foil and have them chase it. What about getting a piece of string and tie the string around a rolled up piece of paper and pull the string along and they will chase it. The important thing here is provide the kitties with a constructive way to spend their high energy levels and the best way to do that is with toys. I hope that this helps you a little bit. Good Luck, gerry
Response:
Hi Gerry, Thanks for the advice! I think the main problem was that when I would be at home with the cats I would play with them "too much"! Ive spent a silly amount on toys! And made loads for them. They are lucky in that the rarely have to play with the toys by themselves as I have been very interactive with them. I suspect this has been the cause of the problems, as when we’ve been in and asleep or have not been able to give them attention – that’s when the problems have occured. Unfortunatly it’s all come a bit late now though as it doesn’t look like I’ll ever get the chance to play with them again Thanks anyway! Rob Cooper Before you buy.
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