Training a MinPin
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> You are INSANE. Jerry. j;~}
As long as you try to scam people, I will be here to expose you. Your choice. EdW http://Petloss.com
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You are INSANE. Jerry. j;~} – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thank you Patrick, > Most free manuals are a come-on for a program or book to buy. There > is no catch to my manual, it’s comprehensive, there’s nothing sold or > solicited through the manual, and I’ll give all the additional advice > and help anyone may need, to train their dogs properly, regardless of > whether they’ve bought my machine or not. Jerry. > But jer, If you just did the old "come-on" ploy, I would have no > complaint, would I?. > You chose to go FAR beyond that to the sleaziness of the "Bait & Switch" > scam. > As long as you try to scam people, I will be here to expose you. > Your choice. > EdW > http://Petloss.com > > > No jer. > > > YOU are the liar and bait and switch scammer here. Want PROOF? > > > You CONSTANTLY LIE about your free WEDTM offer. > > > You offer a free training manual but the link you post sends > people > > > DIRECTLY to the sales pitch for your very dubious $100 electronic > > > training device. > > Excuse me, the very FIRST link on the page is "Free Training > Manual", which > > takes you to the download page for the document. Since it’s free, > who cares > > if he plugs the $100 DDR box alongside – sounds like smart > commerce. > > POB
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> Thank you Patrick, > Most free manuals are a come-on for a program or book to buy. There > is no catch to my manual, it’s comprehensive, there’s nothing sold or > solicited through the manual, and I’ll give all the additional advice > and help anyone may need, to train their dogs properly, regardless of > whether they’ve bought my machine or not. Jerry.
But jer, If you just did the old "come-on" ploy, I would have no complaint, would I?. You chose to go FAR beyond that to the sleaziness of the "Bait & Switch" scam. As long as you try to scam people, I will be here to expose you. Your choice. EdW http://Petloss.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > No jer. > > YOU are the liar and bait and switch scammer here. Want PROOF? > > You CONSTANTLY LIE about your free WEDTM offer. > > You offer a free training manual but the link you post sends > people > > DIRECTLY to the sales pitch for your very dubious $100 electronic > > training device. > Excuse me, the very FIRST link on the page is "Free Training > Manual", which > takes you to the download page for the document. Since it’s free, > who cares > if he plugs the $100 DDR box alongside – sounds like smart > commerce. > POB
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Thank you Patrick, Most free manuals are a come-on for a program or book to buy. There is no catch to my manual, it’s comprehensive, there’s nothing sold or solicited through the manual, and I’ll give all the additional advice and help anyone may need, to train their dogs properly, regardless of whether they’ve bought my machine or not. Jerry.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> No jer. > YOU are the liar and bait and switch scammer here. Want PROOF? > You CONSTANTLY LIE about your free WEDTM offer. > You offer a free training manual but the link you post sends people > DIRECTLY to the sales pitch for your very dubious $100 electronic > training device. > Excuse me, the very FIRST link on the page is "Free Training Manual", which > takes you to the download page for the document. Since it’s free, who cares > if he plugs the $100 DDR box alongside – sounds like smart commerce. > POB
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> No jer. > YOU are the liar and bait and switch scammer here. Want PROOF? > You CONSTANTLY LIE about your free WEDTM offer. > You offer a free training manual but the link you post sends people > DIRECTLY to the sales pitch for your very dubious $100 electronic > training device.
Excuse me, the very FIRST link on the page is "Free Training Manual", which takes you to the download page for the document. Since it’s free, who cares if he plugs the $100 DDR box alongside – sounds like smart commerce. POB
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> > No jer. > YOU are the liar and bait and switch scammer here. Want PROOF? > You CONSTANTLY LIE about your free WEDTM offer. > You offer a free training manual but the link you post sends people > DIRECTLY to the sales pitch for your very dubious $100 electronic > training device. > Excuse me, the very FIRST link on the page is "Free Training Manual", which > takes you to the download page for the document. Since it’s free, who cares > if he plugs the $100 DDR box alongside – sounds like smart commerce. > POB
Patrick, Jer could link to the free manual page & then advertise the DDR all over the free manual download page & I would have no problem with it at all. The problem is that the link he posts for the free manual does NOT go to the free manual page. It goes straight to the DDR sales pitch. I do agree that the Bait & Switch is smart commerce. Unethical, but smart. Just like 3 card Monte. EdW http://petloss.com
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<snip> > You are a worthless liar, a beggar, and mental case. > There is no bait and switch.
No jer. YOU are the liar and bait and switch scammer here. Want PROOF? You CONSTANTLY LIE about your free WEDTM offer. You offer a free training manual but the link you post sends people DIRECTLY to the sales pitch for your very dubious $100 electronic training device. (A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: It IS the classic sleazy "Bait & Switch" scam jer. You can deny it all day but the truth is there for all to see. You should try being honest jer. Stop using the bait & switch scam. Being honest is a better way to live. You should try it. You would be a much happier & better person. EdW http://Petloss.com
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Eric, Jerry Howe is just trying to sell you his dubious $100 electronic training device. That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the bait for a "bait & switch" scam. (A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: EdW http://Petloss.com
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> Eric, > Jerry Howe is just trying to sell you his dubious $100 electronic > training device. > That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the > bait for a "bait & switch" scam. > (A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: > EdW
Dubious? Hardly. Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) is 100% money back satisfaction guaranteed forever, has a two year free repair/replacement warranty, and BIOSOUND Scientific pays all return shipping, so if it don’t float your boat, it’s not going to cost you ONE CENT. Furthermore, BIOSOUND Scientific offers a 25% discount for all shelter or rescue people, regardless of their tax exempt status. YOU are the one who is dubious. You are a beggar, a liar, and you defend jerking and choking and shocking and twisting and pinching dogs ears, toes, and testicles… therefore, you are a mental case. Your motive for criticizing me, is only to defend your PALS whom I’ve exposed and discredited. Your interest in protecting them is because they link to your worthless cyberchapel where you’ll beg for donations and sell them stuff. > (A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at:
Your alleged unsatisfied DDR customer has not been verified in ANY way whatsoever. If a customer of Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) has difficulty, they are instructed to contact me. I’ve not heard from your alleged unsatisfied DDR customer. I suppose that next we’ll hear that they’ve sent the DDR back, and STILL haven’t received a refund and I am not answering the phones or replying to their repeated email requests for a refund???? You are a LIAR. Here’s a bona fide poster who wrote in to claim the REWARD offered by mark shaw. As I expected, he RENEGED on his deal… Margaret has MET me and TRAINED with me, and RELIES on her Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) to keep her dog CONTENT. Following her post, you’ll find another post from another satisfied Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) owner. That one is a post from the Doggy Do Right owner who advised me that DDR works on cat behavior problems like FIGHTING and SPRAYING… she has a feral cat rescue, and a couple of pit bulls. There’s as many more similar posts as you can possibly ask for. I resent using my good Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) clientele as ”testimonials," but Margaret wrote in to the news group herself, and Elaine was impressed enough with her Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) that she wants everyone else to benefit as she and her animals have. I’m sure you will want to verify the authenticity of the posters below, but unless you can find a respectable person to do that for you, I’m not interested in providing any personal information to the bums like yourself, who can’t control themselves from hurting dogs and are only interested in protecting their alleged right to hurt dogs to train them. Apr 25, 05:59 PM Margaret Hoffman Message 1 of 19 Doggy Do Right and Jerry Howe I just recently looked at this newsgroup and I found it incredible. I do have a Doggy Do Right and have had it for about one year. It truly does work – at least on my Dobe, Chelsea. Chelsea was the unhappy recipient of several failed attempts at obedience training, both in a "class" environment and with a personal trainer. She is very high spirited and strong and, unfortunately, spoiled, since we are an older couple who doted on our dog. We were lucky enough to find Jerry Howe and to not only buy a Doggy Do Right, but to also have him personally work with Chelsea. His methods are wonderful and effective. Chelsea is not a dog that you will bully, and I wouldn’t dream of hurting her. After Jerry spent time with her, she no longer jumped on furniture, ate food off the counter, pulled me incessantly on the leash. She is calmer and we are all happier. Well, it is a very long story and I won’t bore you with all the details, but suffice it to say that Jerry Howe saved the day for our dog and for us. Marge Hoffman P.S. You can send me the reward money, but I won’t sell you my DDR! Another poster with pit bulls and feral cat rescue writes: Hi Jerry, Well, we have been running Doggy Do Right for awhile (3 weeks) now and would appear that it is working. We are still on the lowest setting but my cat aggressive dog is now much calmer with the little fur balls getting near her. Not perfect but much improved! I do think that you need a more universal name as it appears to have drastically cut the spraying problem down that we have with our crowded cat situation. I am going to send an e-mail to Domesti-Cats club, Feral Cat Network and Space Cats Club as a lot of the members have some of the same problems with their cats. It has also lessened the number of nightly cat fights. Thanks, elaine Hi, Lowest setting to us is when the machine is on the least number of times during the day. We are going to try putting it on the next setting and see if that will completely solve our problems. We are holding our breath at this point on the spraying and hoping that BIOSOUND continues to work. Will let you know. Yes, feel free to use my post. If you sell to people with cat spray problems though you might want to recommend that they do what we did. We went through the house with BacTerminator an enzyme product that eats the cat urine. We have used Bac T. for a long time and it usually only slows them down for a week or two, so I know it is the BIOSOUND that has created the success we are seeing right now. We were resigned to constant cleaning and even then it was difficult to keep up with. I don’t know if you have forgotten but we have 19 cats. Elaine > That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the > bait for his "bait & switch" scam.
That is the link to the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. It says right there when the page opens: FREE TRAINING MANUAL. It says that TWICE, to be sure some moron like you doesn’t miss it because you’re too busy looking for spelling errors… You are a worthless liar, a beggar, and mental case. There is no bait and switch. The FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual is the first link on the first page. YOU CAN’T MISS IT. Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) PROVIDES me the ability to GIVE AWAY THE STORE, with my FREE training manual. I don’t even mention Doggy Do Right (and KITTY WILL TOO) in the WEDTM manual. You got any training advice? NO? Gee, why am I not surprised? Your only purpose is to spam your own site, and to DEFEND the abusers I IDENTIFY and DISCREDIT, because they all link to your worthless site. Your pal, Jerry. You can get all the information you need to properly handle and train your dog using non force, non confrontational, scientific and psychological behavior modification and conditioning techniques, from the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com BEWARE the forgeries to confuse you, and the warnings offered to you from our rpdb Gang Of Thugs regarding killfiling my posts and the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. These people are frantic at the thought of not having anymore EXCUSE for being able to jerk, choke, and hurt dogs on pronged, choke, and electronic shock collars. You cannot trust your dog’s well being to people who tell you to killfile my advice…and tell you to punish, confine, and confront your dog’s behavior problems. Our Gang Of Thugs are easily identifiable by their warnings about my posts, and their killfile instructions to prevent me from EXPOSING THEM as the vicious, abusive, cretins they are,AND WANT YOU TO BE, so they don’t look out of sorts. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to … read more »
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My Miniature Pinscher is 5 months old. Is it safe to use a choke collar for correction in training? If not, what should I use? Also, which books are best to follow? Thanks E.R.
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> My Miniature Pinscher is 5 months old. Is it safe to use a choke collar > for correction in training? If not, what should I use? Also, which books > are best to follow? > Thanks > E.R.
Hello E.R., There’s no need to force a dog to train him. You can get all the information you need to properly handle and train your dog using non force, non confrontational, scientific and psychological behavior modification and conditioning techniques, from the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com BEWARE the forgeries to confuse you, and the warnings offered to you from our rpdb Gang Of Thugs regarding killfiling my posts and the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. These people are frantic at the thought of not having anymore EXCUSE for being able to jerk, choke, and hurt dogs on pronged, choke, and electronic shock collars. You cannot trust your dog’s well being to people who tell you to killfile my advice…and tell you to punish, confine, and confront your dog’s behavior problems. Our Gang Of Thugs are easily identifiable by their warnings about my posts, and their killfile instructions to prevent me from EXPOSING THEM as the vicious, abusive, cretins they are,AND WANT YOU TO BE, so they don’t look out of sorts. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-
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