Posts by Jerry Howe
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I was wandering the same thing, I simply stated that I had puppies for sale and then he calls me inbred.
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> I was wandering the same thing, I simply stated that I had puppies for > sale and then he calls me inbred.
I believe there is also a troll masquerading as Jerry Howe and posting all sorts of nonesense. Not that Jerry’s posts make sense either…… Anyways, I’ve had to kill file not only Jerry but the troll and his multiple aliases and it’s much more pleasant here now. 
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I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each other out??? Nancy
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>I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! >I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know >what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each >other out??? >Nancy
You can help all of us if you would stop posting Your Pal, Jerry; ~} "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-
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Nancy, This has been going on for ages. The ONLY way you can avoid jerry howe and the trolls that also go by that name is to killfile them. That way the newsgroup becomes very useful. Killfiling information is posted here every so often. If you do not know how to do it, just ask. EdW http://Petloss.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Nancy, >This has been going on for ages. >The ONLY way you can avoid jerry howe and the trolls that also go by >that name is to killfile them. That way the newsgroup becomes very >useful. >Killfiling information is posted here every so often. If you do not know >how to do it, just ask. >EdW >http://Petloss.com > I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy
Hey Ed why don’t ask them for a donation while you are at it…….Jerry;~}
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> I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out???
Nancy, the answer to the problem is simply to killfile Jerry and don’t read any of the dreck by or about him. All attempts to modify his behavior haven’t worked. And welcome Lynn K.
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Simply killfile Jerry Howe. You CAN get good information here, and killfiling Jerry is the first step. Keep in mind that Mr. Howe is in a mental institution…I’m serious…this should tell you all you need to know.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy
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This NG is the most fun one I’ve been on. Sure there’s all the flaming and trolling and shit and everybody is calling everyone else a moron but it’s real entertaining and a real laugh if you look at it without being involved (or being involved if you want). There’s loads of good and bad advice here too and of course we all have the right answer and everyone else is wrong. There’s other more staid doggy NG’s if you want to go there but this one is the best in entertainment and advice! Paul — Visit our homepage (updated 22 July!!!) and see the dogs, cats and us at… Http://www.home.iprolink.co.nz/~panders/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy
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Lyn, that was almost beverage stuff!!!! "dreck" …. love it … what a wonderful word we can add to the dictionary … seems to fit jerry howe to a tee!!!! Great style! wtg Salli (owned and totally controlled by Bootscoot the BC and Radish the Kelpie) "dreck" wowowowowow!!!! rats …. spilt my tea again!! in message > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t
get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we
can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy, the answer to the problem is
simply to killfile Jerry and > don’t read any of the dreck by or
about him. All attempts to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> modify his behavior haven’t worked. And welcome > Lynn K.
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That was a forged post. Some of your pals are trying to get you to killfile me so you don’t find out what I have to say. The REAL Jerry.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was wandering the same thing, I simply stated that I had puppies for > sale and then he calls me inbred.
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says… > I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy
Is it possible that the people that move your stuff to another town are called Fudgepackers? I always wondered what those were. Bye, Jer~ "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-
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>I believe there is also a troll masquerading as Jerry Howe and posting all >sorts of nonesense
there is no second troll .. there is only jerry and his alter-ego’s .. by reading the headers you would find that sometimes jerry slips up and posts alter-egos from his jerry address and jerry from his alter-ego addresses ..
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> I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy
Hello Nancy, You might be misled by forged posts. It seems a lot of our rpdb Gang Of Thugs wants you to killfile me so you don’t find out what I have to say. The WEDTM manual will teach you everything you need to know to motivate your dog to do anything you ask, the first time, because she WANTS to. That’s my approach to training any dog for any behavior. I treat every dog the same, start at the beginning, and finish at the end, or when the dog’s behavior or performance has been determined to be satisfactory. We don’t all need or want champion competitors, but the gestalt of the WEDTM will give you all the tools you need to obtain whatever degree of proficiency you desire in any field of utility. I’ve been looking forward to discussing retrieve training with the author of the information I posted below. She had the notion, that the fetch was not covered in the text of the WEDTM. In a sense that’s correct, because in dog training, the specifics of the behavior are only secondary to the approach to obtaining ANY behavior… That’s why I like to think of the Wits’ End Dog Training Method as McTraining… I don’t know what our Gang Of Thugs and Anklebiters were thinking when they sent you the link to my site or advised killfiling me. They know the posters who suggested my manual and insult you are imposters, FORGERS, and should be disregarded. Whomever those posters are, he/she/them (there are several), they intentionally trying to get people upset with me so that YOU will killfile me and NOT HEAR what I’ve got to say. It seems some of them are AFRAID of the truth behind the training methods our rpdb regulars use. Most of them are devout koehler trainers. You’ll recognize them by their warnings to killfile me and ignore what I’ve got to teach you. They are afraid that if what I’m teaching is right, it will totally invalidate everything they’ve ”known” and taught throughout their entire miserable, vicious, rotten, careers… They jerk and choke and shock and pinch and twist dog’s body parts and beat dogs with sticks to MOTIVATE them, and HANG dog to REHABILITATE them. Take a look at the information you’ve been sent, and then maybe if you’ve got any questions, we can discuss them to figure out what’s going on here. Here’s a good link: Our respected Amy Dahl says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive. Any refusals are corrected with the ear pinch. When performance is smooth, the stick can be added just as in the fetch from a sitting position. If the previous steps have been carefully done, the dog will soon be lunging eagerly for each dummy as soon as it sees it http://www.oakhillkennel.com/library/force/force1.html http://www.oakhillkennel.com/library/force/force2.html While force-fetching is now complete, training has become more varied and interesting and we are sure you will want to continue." >> From amy dahl’s text: >> "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield
the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply.>>> >> Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog,">>> >> Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting
your will fades in importance.>>> RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it means slap. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: >> With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." Immediately
tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. >>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as
force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> >>"but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their
efforts to escaping the ear pinch>>> >>You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell
instead of your thumb;>>> >> even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that>>> >>Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its
lips and pinching its ear.>>> >> if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell.
Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: > Diane Blackman,
Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the less of her… She twists words better than lyingdoc dermer OUR Master Of Deception can, BECAUSE SHE HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE HE DID. She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink of that? > Janet Boss,
Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t outwit a puppydog… > Susan Fraser,
susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. > Avrama Gingold,
Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. > Lynn Kosmakos,
Our pathological liar? "I LOVE KOEHLER" she says. She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she kills dogs at. > Bob Maida,
What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of digging. I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from him… Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n faggoty to debate me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a good deal on some dead bikers machines. > Cindy Tittle Moore,
A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just at the thought of hurting dogs. Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show up as expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a FAIR TEST??? > Denna Pace,
Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. > Marily Rammell,
what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? > John Richardson,
He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler taught him. > Ludwig Smith,
Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s page on his sig file… > and Terri Willis.
The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. The REAL Jerry. j;~}
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>> I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? >Nancy, the answer to the problem is simply to killfile Jerry and >don’t read any of the dreck by or about him. All attempts to >modify his behavior haven’t worked. And welcome >Lynn K.
Perhaps the reason you killfile him is because he tells people the truth about how you abuse dogs to train them.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was wandering the same thing, I simply stated that I had puppies for > sale and then he calls me inbred. >I believe there is also a troll masquerading as Jerry Howe and posting all >sorts of nonesense. Not that Jerry’s posts make sense either…… Anyways, >I’ve had to kill file not only Jerry but the troll and his multiple aliases >and it’s much more pleasant here now. Does Web TV offer filters for >newsgroups? Check your help file. >– >~Darlene~ with Renegade, Gypsy, and Rebel >Learn about Blue and Liver GSD’s! >http://www.bluedogs.8m.com
It would also be much more pleasant here if STUPID people like you didn’t give advise on dog training.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I was wandering the same thing, I simply stated that I had puppies for >> sale and then he calls me inbred. >I believe there is also a troll masquerading as Jerry Howe and posting all >sorts of nonesense. Not that Jerry’s posts make sense either…… Anyways, >I’ve had to kill file not only Jerry but the troll and his multiple aliases >and it’s much more pleasant here now. Does Web TV offer filters for >newsgroups? Check your help file. >– >~Darlene~ with Renegade, Gypsy, and Rebel >Learn about Blue and Liver GSD’s! >http://www.bluedogs.8m.com > It would also be much more pleasant here if STUPID people like you > didn’t give advise on dog training.
Excellent post. Jerry. j;~} BEWARE the warnings offered to you from our rpdb Gang Of Thugs regarding my posts and the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. You cannot trust your dog’s well being to people who tell you to killfile my advice… and tell you to punish, confine, and confront your dog’s behavior problems. Our Gang Of Thugs are easily identifiable by their warnings about my posts, and their killfile instructions to prevent me from EXPOSING THEM as the vicious, abusive, cretins they are, AND WANT YOU TO BE. You can get all the information you need to properly handle and train your dog using non force, non confrontational, scientific and psychological behavior modification and conditioning techniques, from the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-
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<snip> > You can get all the information you need to properly handle > and train your dog using non force, non confrontational, > scientific and psychological behavior modification and > conditioning techniques, from the Wits’ End Dog Training > Method manual available for free at > http://www.<snip>.com
Hello People Jerry Howe is just trying to sell you his dubious $100 electronic training device. That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the bait for a "bait & switch" scam. (A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: Buyer Beware! EdW http://Petloss.com <snip>
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>> It would also be much more pleasant here if STUPID people like you > didn’t give advise on dog training. >Excellent post. Jerry. j;~}
Thank You Mr. Howe
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ><snip> > You can get all the information you need to properly handle > and train your dog using non force, non confrontational, > scientific and psychological behavior modification and > conditioning techniques, from the Wits’ End Dog Training > Method manual available for free at > http://www.<snip>.com >Hello People >Jerry Howe is just trying to sell you his dubious $100 electronic >training device. >That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the >bait for a "bait & switch" scam. >(A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: >Buyer Beware! >EdW >http://Petloss.com ><snip>
Caution Ed is begging for money to put your dead dogs name on his
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>I believe there is also a troll masquerading as Jerry Howe and posting all >sorts of nonesense > there is no second troll .. there is only jerry and his alter-ego’s .. by > reading the headers you would find that sometimes jerry slips up and posts > alter-egos from his jerry address and jerry from his alter-ego addresses ..
Hello zoo, You are either nuts or lying. I do not post anonymously. It is your pals who are trying to get everyone to killfile me so they don’t find out about what’s really going on here. Jerry. j;~} BEWARE the warnings offered to you from our rpdb Gang Of Thugs regarding my posts and the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. You cannot trust your dog’s well being to people who tell you to killfile my advice… and tell you to punish, confine, and confront your dog’s behavior problems. Our Gang Of Thugs are easily identifiable by their warnings about my posts, and their killfile instructions to prevent me from EXPOSING THEM as the vicious, abusive, cretins they are, AND WANT YOU TO BE. You can get all the information you need to properly handle and train your dog using non force, non confrontational, scientific and psychological behavior modification and conditioning techniques, from the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >I believe there is also a troll masquerading as Jerry Howe and > posting all > >sorts of nonesense > there is no second troll .. there is only jerry and his alter-ego’s > .. by > reading the headers you would find that sometimes jerry slips up > and posts > alter-egos from his jerry address and jerry from his alter-ego > addresses .. > Hello zoo, > You are either nuts or lying. I do not post anonymously. It is your > pals who are trying to get everyone to killfile me so they don’t find > out about what’s really going on here. Jerry. j;~} > BEWARE the warnings offered to you from our rpdb Gang Of Thugs > regarding my posts and the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. > You cannot trust your dog’s well being to people who tell you to > killfile my advice… and tell you to punish, confine, and confront > your > dog’s behavior problems. Our Gang Of Thugs are easily identifiable > by their warnings about my posts, and their killfile instructions to > prevent me from EXPOSING THEM as the vicious, abusive, cretins > they are, AND WANT YOU TO BE. > You can get all the information you need to properly handle and train > your dog using non force, non confrontational, scientific and > psychological behavior modification and conditioning techniques, > from the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at > http://www.<snip>.com
Jerry Howe is just trying to sell you his dubious $100 electronic training device. That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the bait for a "bait & switch" scam. (A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: EdW http://Petloss.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > >I believe there is also a troll masquerading as Jerry Howe and > posting all > > >sorts of nonesense > > there is no second troll .. there is only jerry and his alter-ego’s > .. by > > reading the headers you would find that sometimes jerry slips up > and posts > > alter-egos from his jerry address and jerry from his alter-ego > addresses .. > Hello zoo, > You are either nuts or lying. I do not post anonymously. It is your > pals who are trying to get everyone to killfile me so they don’t find > out about what’s really going on here. Jerry. j;~} > BEWARE the warnings offered to you from our rpdb Gang Of Thugs > regarding my posts and the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. > You cannot trust your dog’s well being to people who tell you to > killfile my advice… and tell you to punish, confine, and confront > your > dog’s behavior problems. Our Gang Of Thugs are easily identifiable > by their warnings about my posts, and their killfile instructions to > prevent me from EXPOSING THEM as the vicious, abusive, cretins > they are, AND WANT YOU TO BE. > You can get all the information you need to properly handle and train > your dog using non force, non confrontational, scientific and > psychological behavior modification and conditioning techniques, > from the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at > http://www.<snip>.com >Jerry Howe is just trying to sell you his dubious $100 electronic >training device. >That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the >bait for a "bait & switch" scam. >(A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: >EdW >http://Petloss.com
Hey Ed go kill some more dogs to make some money.J;~}
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Hey, that’s what *I* use it for. :-) There’s just got to be something said for the irony of a post that begins "Silent for a while…" that generates _over 300 posts. That’s just the 300 I could count _with a killfile that runneth over with 30 folks – mostly the head case and his alter egos and the other folks teasing him – not even showing up. It’s enough to read snippets of his tripe through the responses of others. It’s like a badly written soap opera with lots and lots of walk-on parts and a few stalwart regulars. There’s character development, too, mostly downhill in one case as the mental health of one of the regulars is obviously deteriorating. sc
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This NG is the most fun one I’ve been on. Sure there’s all the flaming and > trolling and shit and everybody is calling everyone else a moron but it’s > real entertaining and a real laugh if you look at it without being involved > (or being involved if you want). There’s loads of good and bad advice here > too and of course we all have the right answer and everyone else is wrong. > There’s other more staid doggy NG’s if you want to go there but this one is > the best in entertainment and advice! > Paul > — > Visit our homepage (updated 22 July!!!) and see the dogs, cats and us at… > Http://www.home.iprolink.co.nz/~panders/ > I am relatively new to this group but the flaming is unreal!! > I read Jerry Howe’s posts but can’t get past all the insults to even know > what the problem is. Any chance we can tone this down and just help each > other out??? > Nancy
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> Jerry Howe is just trying to sell you his dubious $100 electronic > training device. > That is where the link he posted takes you. The free manual offer is the > bait for a "bait & switch" scam. > (A purchaser of jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: > EdW
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